Can my game be better if I upgrade my machine?

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Narmy:
Quote from: jeebuschrist on 2011 March 15, 21:23:30

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Quote from: NoShitSherlock on 2011 March 07, 00:40:11

Back on the subject of upgrades, is a Radeon 5770, with 1 GB of dedicated memory, enough to play this stupid game? My poor ickle laptop can no longer handle the game and expansions, even on low settings. After an hour, the game starts pixelating and my laptop feels like it's going to burninate to a crisp. My laptop is a piece of shit Compaq that's about 3 years old, with integrated graphics, an Intel Core 2 duo processor, and 3 GB of RAM. Once I get my tax return, I'm building a mid-range gaming desktop for playing TS3 and Civ V. I'm looking at the 5770, as well as the new 2600k i7 Intel Sandy Bridge processor, and 12 GB of RAM. I'll be hooking it up to a 42" LED tv via HDMI for playing.

You do not need 12GB of RAM. I'd go 4GB minimum 8GB maximum (if it's a dual-channel mobo) or just 6GB (if it's a triple-channel mobo).

What's wrong with having 12GB of RAM if you have twin triple-channels and you want it?

More RAM =/= better performance

RAM is just temporary storage for data that needs to be read/written fast. If a game uses 2GB of RAM, then that is all you need to run it; but you need a bit extra for the OS and stuff running in the background.

12GB is overkill for games, you'd only need that much if you do HD video editing for a living or something.

One thing here: you need more than just "a bit extra" RAM.  On Windoze 7 and Vista, the OS and background tasks can easily use up 2GB of RAM.  Granted, on XP, it's much less, but still fairly sizable (at least 300MB).  But yes, 12 GB is way overkill.  I've never been known to use more than 6GB or so of RAM, and I run a shitload of stuff at the same time.

On Win7 I only use 1.5GB when not running a game. And that is with Steam, Firefox, Xfire, Avast, and Pidgin running.

4GB is perfectly fine for most games at the moment, but I am planning on adding a couple more sticks of 2GB if future games require it.

wizard_merlin:
Quote from: Narmy on 2011 March 15, 21:32:43

Quote from: jeebuschrist on 2011 March 15, 21:23:30

Quote from: Narmy on 2011 March 15, 20:50:40

Quote from: wizard_merlin on 2011 March 15, 20:39:45

Quote from: Narmy on 2011 March 15, 20:26:33

Quote from: NoShitSherlock on 2011 March 07, 00:40:11

Back on the subject of upgrades, is a Radeon 5770, with 1 GB of dedicated memory, enough to play this stupid game? My poor ickle laptop can no longer handle the game and expansions, even on low settings. After an hour, the game starts pixelating and my laptop feels like it's going to burninate to a crisp. My laptop is a piece of shit Compaq that's about 3 years old, with integrated graphics, an Intel Core 2 duo processor, and 3 GB of RAM. Once I get my tax return, I'm building a mid-range gaming desktop for playing TS3 and Civ V. I'm looking at the 5770, as well as the new 2600k i7 Intel Sandy Bridge processor, and 12 GB of RAM. I'll be hooking it up to a 42" LED tv via HDMI for playing.

You do not need 12GB of RAM. I'd go 4GB minimum 8GB maximum (if it's a dual-channel mobo) or just 6GB (if it's a triple-channel mobo).

What's wrong with having 12GB of RAM if you have twin triple-channels and you want it?

12GB is overkill for games, you'd only need that much if you do HD video editing for a living or something.

One thing here: you need more than just "a bit extra" RAM.  On Windoze 7 and Vista, the OS and background tasks can easily use up 2GB of RAM.  Granted, on XP, it's much less, but still fairly sizable (at least 300MB).  But yes, 12 GB is way overkill.  I've never been known to use more than 6GB or so of RAM, and I run a shitload of stuff at the same time.

On Win7 I only use 1.5GB when not running a game. And that is with Steam, Firefox, Xfire, Avast, and Pidgin running.

4GB is perfectly fine for most games at the moment, but I am planning on adding a couple more sticks of 2GB if future games require it.


I have seen TS3 at different times, along with everything else running in the background push my RAM usage to over 5GB, close to 6GB.

I know how RAM works, and what it does, and after a certain point more RAM won't necessarily help anything, but if someone wants to add more RAM what is wrong with that?  Just because a game may or may not use more than 2GB RAM doesn't mean you have to just install that amount.  You argue that 12GB RAM is overkill, it probably is, but so is a 2 or 3 x SLI GTX570 graphics set-up, and an i9 hexacore processor overclocked to some ridiculous speed, but people still do it.

Just because a game wont use all of the available system resources doesn't mean you can't or shouldn't add them.

spockblock:
Quote from: wizard_merlin on 2011 March 18, 16:04:51

Just because a game wont use all of the available system resources doesn't mean you can't or shouldn't add them.


It still won't make your PUDDING BETTER, which is the ACTUAL QUESTION BEING ASKED IN THIS THREAD.

J. M. Pescado:
Quote from: wizard_merlin on 2011 March 18, 16:04:51

Just because a game wont use all of the available system resources doesn't mean you can't or shouldn't add them.
Well, it's fine if you want to do it for purely masturbatory purposes, but...

Quote from: spockblock on 2011 March 18, 18:54:44

It still won't make your PUDDING BETTER, which is the ACTUAL QUESTION BEING ASKED IN THIS THREAD.

wizard_merlin:
Quote from: J. M. Pescado on 2011 March 19, 07:09:56

Quote from: wizard_merlin on 2011 March 18, 16:04:51

Just because a game wont use all of the available system resources doesn't mean you can't or shouldn't add them.
Well, it's fine if you want to do it for purely masturbatory purposes,
or you use other non gaming applications that make use of the extra resources, but as the original question was specific to TS3, I agree with your assessment.

Quote from: spockblock on 2011 March 18, 18:54:44

It still won't make your PUDDING BETTER, which is the ACTUAL QUESTION BEING ASKED IN THIS THREAD.
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Given that EAxis seem to like keeping their shit able to run on the lowest craptastic machine possible, I agree.

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