Is T$R at it again?
uknortherner:
Especially considering TSR's track record in the past, ranging from hacking attacks on MTS2, GOS, numerous Photobucket accounts and of course that now-famous petition right through to outright theft of CC and magazine screenshots (a desperate attempt by Steve to claim an "exclusive" on Sims Medieval), I wouldn't put one damn thing past them, especially with that poisoned racist dwarf Atwat around.
With their dirty track record, how anyone can even remotely defend these lowlife cunts is anyone's guess.
Inge:
But you can't strengthen current speculation with past speculation and cause it to become evidence :D We don't have any clear evidence they ever hacked anyone. The only things I have seen credible evidence of are that personal contact details of members were shared with FAs and that Steve posted a TSR article in a way that led people to believe for a short time that he was the source of the information when he was not. Those are evidence of poor judgement, but not direct evidence of hacking. Everything that they "could have done" with information they had, could have been also done by others with similar information and without the approval or knowledge of TSR management.
uknortherner:
Err, Inge - Did you forget the Buggybooz incident over at MTS? You know, the one where her account was hacked, her TOU were changed to be paysite friendly and finally her content stolen only to reappear under Shakeshaft's account as pay content? The one where the IP address matched a proxy used by Thomas himself back when he created an account to "hire" free CC creators for TSR?
I'm fully aware that you take a lot of these accusations with a pinch of salt (or indeed, an entire salt mine's worth) but the evidence is right there.
But, let's go back to that petition for a moment. 629 people signed it (including me), and TSR ended up with a list of 614(?) people who they were more than happy to publish for the world to see. How did TSR get hold of this list in the first place? We know it was the petition list because it contained names several MATYans made up to have a go at BlueSoup, and surprise, surprise, those names were on the leaked list. TSR have shown in the past that they are not adverse to sharing private data among themselves and their paysite pals.
True, we get the village idiot Johan popping up here and over at PMBD to protest his innocence, but he pisses off at the first opportunity he gets, and oddly enough was nowhere to be found when false allegations were made against GOS which led to GoDaddy shutting them down for a while.
So yes, I am more than willing to believe that TSR had a hand in this. This is exactly their style.
Inge:
The whole point of proxy IPs is they don't identify people. And we didn't see the logs anyway - BESIDES which, istr, Delphy himself who possibly did see his logs said he didn't see any clear evidence to implicate TSR.
And how did TSR get hold of the petition list? Yes, how did they? And did they? Maybe there is a tattletale. Maybe there is a hobbyist hacker in the inner circle who thought it would be fun to make trouble when the blame was likely to fall elsewhere. Or maybe it was a strategic fake hacking calculated to be blamed on TSR. Most of us don't really know each other very well. Looking for firm evidence without having access to anything other than each other's internet presence is really a waste of time. You need to be able to seize people's computers, or verify they are online at the time these things happened.
Still, the speculation continues to be a fun pastime.
(edited to correct MTS to TSR lol)
J. M. Pescado:
I certainly see every sign that TSR has been associated with past acts, although there is no particular evidence at this time to link them to this one.
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