EA Data Logging - Ambitions & Patch
Madame Mim:
Quote from: Sigmund on 2010 June 05, 19:05:27
No, I'm getting the feeling that you're missing the point here. The issue is that they are logging player data and being extremely vague about it. If this thread didn't exist, how many people would even know it was happening? Nowhere on the official website is it covered, and the only mention of it in the game is buried in the EULA. The option is enabled by default when it loads, and nowhere in game does it specify what this data even consists of. When EA is intentionally cryptic about something, that should be a red flag to players.
Yes, the majority of MATYians are smart enough to keep the game from connecting to the internet. But by determining what it is that EA wants to log, this gives a us a better idea of where they are looking to go in the future. Saying, "well, some people are already screwed anyway" is irrelevant.
If you're running an aar'd version it isn't automatically ticked by default. I saw all this before I installed my game and the first thing I did was go hunting for the option to turn it off (even though Sims is banned from internet connection on my PC anyways) and it was not enabled. Yet another reason to try before you buy. That said - I like Ambitions. I'm going to go out and pay for it. I'm just not going to register it or let it access the internet in any way.
morriganrant:
Quote from: Madame Mim on 2010 June 05, 23:29:08
If you're running an aar'd version it isn't automatically ticked by default. I saw all this before I installed my game and the first thing I did was go hunting for the option to turn it off (even though Sims is banned from internet connection on my PC anyways) and it was not enabled. Yet another reason to try before you buy. That said - I like Ambitions. I'm going to go out and pay for it. I'm just not going to register it or let it access the internet in any way.
Nope, sorry, I have an Arr'd game and mine was ticked by default. Maybe it has to do with connection to the net at install? I didn't bother disconnecting before install, but kept an eye on my firewall.
Sigmund:
No idea why some are ticked at load up and some aren't. I'm running an ARR'd copy and disconnect from the internet when I play, yet it was ticked by default when I loaded it up.
Madame Mim:
Hmm, interesting. I never disconnect my internet (well, not unless I'm really worried). I just trust my firewall and the fact that Sims is already banned. Maybe it has something to do with me forgetting to put in my no CD crack and getting a cannot verify report and having to go out, put in crack and reload.
wizard_merlin:
Quote from: Buzzler on 2010 June 05, 15:57:25
Quote from: wizard_merlin on 2010 June 03, 23:36:24
If they REALLY want to know about peoples playing habits to better tailor the game, all they would have to do is run an on-line survey asking people what they want.
Surveys are nowhere as conclusive as a code-generated analysis. That is a fact.
The code-generated data tells them what people do with the game now, it doesn't tell them what people WANT the game to do. It tells them what objects and interactions people use now, not what objects and interactions they WANT.
I want spiral staircases, that we got in AL, and I want one turning left and one turning right. How is my playing the game and sending code-generated data for analysis going to tell EAxis that is what I WANT in the game? It doesn't because they don't exist to use. The only way to get that information is through a survey asking people what they WANT.
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