EA Data Logging - Ambitions & Patch
morriganrant:
Quote from: Drakron on 2010 June 02, 22:30:42
And no, they did not told us they were about to start logging that info before ... even the patch notes make no reference to it and only to the added capability of streaming ads.
They sort of did, that EULA that was quoted a bit back? I reinstalled about 2 months ago due to pure fail on my part I assume, just for the fuck of it I read the entire EULA, it did say that it would collect anonymous info and share it. This is not a new EULA with Ambitions. They don't have to mention it in any patches, you already agreed to it when you installed the game.
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Buzzler:
Quote from: Sigmund on 2010 June 02, 20:32:52
I think the issue is more why they are doing it, and what, exactly, it is they're collecting.
How does that matter? Everything they can collect at that point is harmless in comparison to what they're already collecting. I see no alternative to analyzing the player's behaviour and feature usage to better tailor the product to the player. I think this is kind of a naive approach, though. Of course you have to give the players what they expect, but that alone will never satisfy them.
Sigmund:
Quote from: Buzzler on 2010 June 03, 18:21:17
Quote from: Sigmund on 2010 June 02, 20:32:52
I think the issue is more why they are doing it, and what, exactly, it is they're collecting.
How does that matter? Everything they can collect at that point is harmless in comparison to what they're already collecting.
Are you trying to ask an obvious question here? It matters because player information being collected in a less-than-forthcoming manner. I don't care what they're analyzing. EA has already shown that they have zero interest in their customers beyond profit. They managed to damage the computers of legitimately paying customers with Securom, and did they care? Not until there was a lawsuit.
The people whose information is being collected here won't be pirates, since most of them are smart enough to block the game from connecting to the internet. It's the people who paid for the game legally and blindly trust EA.
Quote from: Buzzler on 2010 June 03, 18:21:17
I see no alternative to analyzing the player's behaviour and feature usage to better tailor the product to the player.
Since, apparently, you did not read this the first time, I will say it again: anyone who trusts EA is an idiot. Just because other companies are able to collect information about their users anonymously and safely does not mean EA will.
wizard_merlin:
Quote from: Buzzler on 2010 June 03, 18:21:17
Quote from: Sigmund on 2010 June 02, 20:32:52
I think the issue is more why they are doing it, and what, exactly, it is they're collecting.
I see no alternative to analyzing the player's behaviour and feature usage to better tailor the product to the player
If this were true, the game would be so much better than it is. They want to know what people are interested in so they know what ads to try and shove down your throat when they activate the in game advertisements.
If they REALLY want to know about peoples playing habits to better tailor the game, all they would have to do is run an on-line survey asking people what they want. It would be no more difficult to work through the results of an on-line survey than to sort through all the crap being "Anonymously" sent to them.
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