TSR HAS DOXED YOU!

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Zazazu:
Quote from: Drakron on 2009 December 02, 05:32:17

I think that Privacy Statement is pretty standard, the issue comes from liability and TSR shown again and again they have no control over their staff.
It is a pretty standard privacy statement. I'm one of those weird people who reads the full text of everything she agrees to, and nothing in their statement jumps out as odd. However, as you've hinted at, it's the implimentation that is an issue. Any other company would only share personal information in these situations:

1. To second-party or third-party advertisers, as allowed via the specifics of the Privacy Agreement (this is why you read the things), and generally then only demographics, no name or address.
2. In the case of subpeona from a government agency regarding a suit.
3. In the case of illegal action taken by a "member" against them or their property, then only using the information in a court of law.

Notice there's nothing about swapping personal information based on conjecture to other entities. Nothing about making largely baseless accusations against someone and then giving a bunch of people their full names and emails, sometimes phone numbers, to do with as they will. Nope. That's the sort of thing that TSR does, and that's the reason why even a small leak or spreading information that technically didn't originate from them, is extremely alarming.

I would bet that there is something in that e-petition's site regarding unauthorized third-party hacking and usage of information obtained via hacking, and I'd bet that at the least Thomas and Atwat specifically are in violation of that, if not TSR as a whole.

J. M. Pescado:
Quote from: Zazazu on 2009 December 02, 17:56:28

1. To second-party or third-party advertisers, as allowed via the specifics of the Privacy Agreement (this is why you read the things), and generally then only demographics, no name or address.
2. In the case of subpeona from a government agency regarding a suit.
3. In the case of illegal action taken by a "member" against them or their property, then only using the information in a court of law.
You will note how all of these weasel-exceptions are exactly the situations you DON'T want your information being shared in. Therefore, all "privacy policies" other than "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" are a joke, entirely without value, and not worth the pixels they are printed with. Don't share your information merely because someone asks: Lie first, you lose nothing.

Drakron:
Some times its required, Amazon for example is going to require billing information and "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" is not going to work.

I understand since TSR does have a subscription system they will require billing information and just proves how screwed up their staff are when they just disclose that type of information, especially since that happens to be a crime.

In fact I wonder why nobody bothered to inform PayPal about TSR disclosing that privilege information when it happened, I might not like Navesea "pirate list" but at least they keep it at username only.

J. M. Pescado:
Quote from: Drakron on 2009 December 03, 00:28:50

Some times its required, Amazon for example is going to require billing information and "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" is not going to work.
'swhat Gypsy Paypal is for. Like I said, giving people information is optional. You can always lie, as long you construct a set of lies that will get you what you want. Always think of a way to lie around giving anyone dox.

SealJuice:
I wish I was on the list. All the cool kids are. Everyone should write Thomass and ask to be put on the list. It's not fair to leave us off like that. It's discrimination I tell ya.

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