How are my offenders suppose to eat?
Sigmund:
I suspect you misinterpreted my use of the word power. Regardless, my original point still stands: if you live in a community in which it is common for employers and teachers to abuse their positions and flirt with someone who, by definition, is incapable of rejecting their advances without fear of repercussion-- well, you should should consider moving. Two of the examples you provided didn't support the point you were trying to make, which seems to be that flirting is a daily and harmless occurrence. In both of these situations, it's neither acceptable nor harmless.
I have absolutely no idea what a senator or a garbageman has to do with anything, since it seems unlikely that either one of them would be flirting with the other to begin with.
Edited because it is late, and my typing skills are failing.
Anonym:
Quote from: Liz on 2009 October 22, 04:04:36
Quote from: blackninja on 2009 October 22, 03:23:40
As to Liz...with saying that that option isn't in the game...did you read what I wrote? I am talking about REAL LIFE, not the game. I'm refering to real people, not the 12 or 6 in the game. Real world.
Any number of reasonable, intelligent people would read your post as "It's no big deal for adults to flirt with kids." The examples you then chose to illustrate this "flirting", however, are ridiculously low on actual flirtation. Teacher pays attention to his unexpected guest? That's not flirting. Guy wants to hire the more attractive applicant? Certainly rooted in sexual attraction, but it has nothing to do with adults flirting with minors. It's irrelevant.
Now, did you read what I wrote? Because I'm well aware that there's a big difference between the game and REAL LIFE. And part of that difference is that where REAL LIFE might have a slightly flirtatious interaction between an adult and a minor that isn't cause for alerting the authorities, in the game, there is no such thing. IN THE GAME, all flirtation is by definition romantic/sexual in nature. So I find it perfectly "realistical" that a REAL LIFE adult would be labeled a pedo for attempting to interact with a minor in the ways the game recognizes as flirting.
The game recognizes "compliment personality" as flirting. So if I, a straight YA male, told a 16 year old girl, "You are one of the most fun people I've ever talked to! You're smart, personable, and have a great sense of humor! I'd love to spend more time with you!" then I'd be labeled a pedo? For one thing, if even if I were specifically attracted to 16 year old girls, I'd have ephebophilia rather than pedophilia in the clinical sense, and psychiatrists don't even consider ephebophilia a disorder (that's in the article I linked to), while they obviously consider pedophilia one.
The big issue is whether TS3 teens are more "12" or 16. If they're 12, then even my example "compliment personality" would seem very creepy from an adult (though still not criminal unless you replace "spend more time" with "have sex"). Given that they look 16ish, go to high school, act with as much maturity as real-life 16 year olds, and drive cars, I consider them 16.
And if they looked and acted 12 in the game, then no one who isn't a pedo would find them attractive. As it is and I quoted, even many normal (non-ephebophilia) adults find teens in late puberty somewhat arousing-- and they're too old for real pedos. Real pedos, as sick as this is, will find the child models in the game more arousing than the young adults or the teens.
blackninja:
Quote from: Sigmund on 2009 October 22, 04:45:15
Regardless, my original point still stands: if you live in a community in which it is common for employers and teachers to abuse their positions and flirt with someone who, by definition, is incapable of rejecting their advances without fear of repercussion-- well, you should should consider moving. Two of the examples you provided didn't support the point you were trying to make, which seems to be that flirting is a daily and harmless occurrence. In both of these situations, it's neither acceptable nor harmless.
I was in no way, shapy, or form trying to make a point that it is a harmless occurence, but yes I am trying to state that it is a fairly common. And what you are defining is much different than what I am. I am not talking about people abusing their positions to make advancements on someone who is afraid to do anything because they are of a lower standing than the other person. I do not know how you came to this conclusion either...and in your definition if any physical contact would be made that would be technically classified as rape...I'm not talking about that in any sense. I believe that you have gravely misinturpretted the point I was trying to convey...
Sigmund:
Quote from: blackninja on 2009 October 22, 07:25:06
I am not talking about people abusing their positions to make advancements on someone who is afraid to do anything because they are of a lower standing than the other person.
Quote from: blackninja on 2009 October 21, 04:42:44
Have you ever seen how many older men flirt with young girls? Teachers, employeers, neighbors, everyone.
I think you can see the contradictory quality of your two statements for yourself. Additionally, I'm unclear what "definition" you're referring to, as I never provided one.
J. M. Pescado:
Quote from: Anonym on 2009 October 22, 06:20:36
The game recognizes "compliment personality" as flirting. So if I, a straight YA male, told a 16 year old girl, "You are one of the most fun people I've ever talked to! You're smart, personable, and have a great sense of humor! I'd love to spend more time with you!" then I'd be labeled a pedo?
HELL YES. Just the fact that you INITIATED CONTACT with a *12* outside of a professional context is CREEPY.
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