Really Long Save Tiime

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funkilla:
I've got a great computer. 4 GB of RAM, 3.06 ghtz processor, Nvidia GeForce Go 7600. It's not my computer that's causing 10 minute load times. I'll go with the bloated neighborhoods as nearly all my houses are filled. Looks like its time to go all Ed Gein on some townies.

tizerist:
Anyone else finding crashes during saves?
At times I have found myself crossing my fingers, breath held, hoping it pulls through...

byronh:
Quote from: jolrei on 2009 August 26, 15:35:07

I suppose it depends what you want.  If you want to dress up your sims like electronic paper dolls, then you might find this to be true.  On the other hand, I play with almost no cc and am more interested in creating distressing situations for my sims to live through.  You create your own interest.  If you play a cookie cutter game where your sim gets up, goes to work, fulfils his/her opportunities, builds skills, woohoos a couple of times to get spawn, eats, pees, and dies, it will get boring.  You need to be more creative.


Care to share any of these distressing situations? I too like doing malicious things to my Sims... except for the fact that there are so few things that you can do other than Fire, cheating on their spouse, giving them all the loser and unlucky trait, and making the children all hate each other. Please enlighten me! I'm running out of fun things to do in my game, and i've played just about every career and trait combination in the game.

Sibylla:
Quote from: funkilla on 2009 September 09, 18:27:02

It's not my computer that's causing 10 minute load times.


My setting, AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 6400+ ~3.2GHz, 3072MB RAM, directX10 (XP 3rd party) and NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT 512, is decent for running the game. My save times are horrid too, after adding some stuff it went up to 15 minutes.

After clearing everything, except Awesome, the save time went down to, say, ten minutes. I've cleared the townies and NPC's down as much as I could and I only have 13 families in town, all other lots are empty.

Now, I'm not a computer wiz or anything, but I think it has something to do with the hard disks, their writing speeds? Mine are Samsung POS with 7200 rpms or something... I heard that RAID 0ing your hard drives might ease up playing Sims 3 (and 2 too), but I haven't had the guts to test it yet since it requires a full computer re-set.

Buzzler:
Quote from: Sibylla on 2009 September 16, 10:00:16

Now, I'm not a computer wiz or anything, but I think it has something to do with the hard disks, their writing speeds? Mine are Samsung POS with 7200 rpms or something... I heard that RAID 0ing your hard drives might ease up playing Sims 3 (and 2 too), but I haven't had the guts to test it yet since it requires a full computer re-set.
Hard drive perfomance can't be the cause for these long save times, no matter how slow the drive is. Writing the save file to the drive is (mostly) sequential access, this doesn't take more than a couple of seconds, even for file sizes >100MB. The long save times must be caused by the game itself, for unknown reasons it needs so long to "build" the file. That is unless the save algorithm is a total brainfart, which wirtes and overwrites the data like a thousand times. The EA devs can't be that stupid.

Striping (RAID0 isn't really a RAID, since the R stands for "redundant") doesn't really improve IO-perfomance in most single-user applications/environments, where drive access is mostly random. Striping doubles the sequential read/write rates, but it doesn't do anything about the access times. Since TS3 streams lots of data, a solid state disk might noticeably improve the perfomance (won't affect the save times, though).

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