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Chocolate Milk:
Quote from: tjstreak on 2009 August 29, 12:03:23

Quote from: Chocolate Milk on 2009 August 13, 23:40:53

I was explaining Pescado's comment, which I believe was just referring to the "top-down" governmental system, which is a feature of practical communism.


Actually, it's Leninism.  Marx actually calls for the withering away of the state.  But then, few who talk about Marxism have actually read Marx.  Otherwise, they would understand that the term "capitalism" was actually coined by Marx.


Yes, that's why I said 'practical' communism, because communism in real life is quite different to the idealistic version. Oh, and like tjstreak indicates, the features of practical communism are often the features of humans failing to live up to ideals in general, so it's not surprising they're exhibited all over society.

Edit: And exhibited in the Sims 3 and IndieStone. :P

J. M. Pescado:
That feature is not finished and is only available to designated testers.

Rosehrt:
As the history books have shown both true Capitalism and Communism have been both detrimental to their societies. Since it is only part of human nature to fight against the oppressors, both governments eventual crumble into some sort of government that lies between true Capitalism and Socialism as can be shown by two big nations of our days, Russia and the United States of America. What is the best form of government? Only future history has the answers for that.

I sadly have to say that the U.S. has really regressed down the line toward Socialism. With big spending budgets lately, yeah that is Socialism and yeah oppression. Take from the rich and give to the poor. But take from the middle class and give to rich like they did with that last large spending bill. What was that? Was that some kind form of Capitalism, or something else?

Will when it comes to the sims type of government. Will let's see sims main aim is collecting wealth, main goals reach the highest rank of their career branch. And gossip about who is rich? Will that would be Capitalism. Share food with neighbors freely, a Capitalist would never do that though. So I would say a medieval sort of government. Where do anything you can to acquire wealth, but show off that wealth by giving big feast and parties and inviting the neighbors.

J. M. Pescado:
Quote from: Rosehrt on 2009 September 02, 20:04:13

I sadly have to say that the U.S. has really regressed down the line toward Socialism. With big spending budgets lately, yeah that is Socialism and yeah oppression. Take from the rich and give to the poor. But take from the middle class and give to rich like they did with that last large spending bill. What was that? Was that some kind form of Capitalism, or something else?
That is Kleptocracy. That's not really an -ism. It's not really an economic policy at all.

Quote from: Rosehrt on 2009 September 02, 20:04:13

Will when it comes to the sims type of government. Will let's see sims main aim is collecting wealth, main goals reach the highest rank of their career branch. And gossip about who is rich? Will that would be Capitalism. Share food with neighbors freely, a Capitalist would never do that though.
Sure they would. Humans have been sharing food before economics were even invented, as a form of pro-economics. Before people invented food preservation, one man could not eat an entire antelope. Today, they more take the form of communal, social events which really have nothing to do with economics.

Rosehrt:
Quote from: J. M. Pescado on 2009 September 03, 14:18:54

Quote from: Rosehrt on 2009 September 02, 20:04:13

I sadly have to say that the U.S. has really regressed down the line toward Socialism. With big spending budgets lately, yeah that is Socialism and yeah oppression. Take from the rich and give to the poor. But take from the middle class and give to rich like they did with that last large spending bill. What was that? Was that some kind form of Capitalism, or something else?
That is Kleptocracy. That's not really an -ism. It's not really an economic policy at all.

Quote from: Rosehrt on 2009 September 02, 20:04:13

Will when it comes to the sims type of government. Will let's see sims main aim is collecting wealth, main goals reach the highest rank of their career branch. And gossip about who is rich? Will that would be Capitalism. Share food with neighbors freely, a Capitalist would never do that though.
Sure they would. Humans have been sharing food before economics were even invented, as a form of pro-economics. Before people invented food preservation, one man could not eat an entire antelope. Today, they more take the form of communal, social events which really have nothing to do with economics.


Kleptocracy! Wow learned a new word, thanks for the correction. I learned something new today. I always like learning something new. All these new forms of words today used in politics. Government corruption hum that is even more terrible.

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