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Bobbins:
Quote from: kuronue on 2009 August 10, 00:46:12

Quote from: Solmyr on 2009 August 09, 20:23:06

A compromise could be allowing non-played families to have one baby without a crib, and then needing a crib to have more. Give us an announcement "so and so just had a baby, they need a crib!" so we can go and edit their house if we want them to continue reproducing.



This will inevitably lead to population decline. Two parents = 1 babby means each generation, without intervention, the population halves. Eventually the only thing left will be playables who are all so intermarried incest is the only option.


I disagree. It's the player's choice if they want the population to decline, and if not, Solmyr's suggestion means they would know which households to provide cribs for and when. This would make it easier (less hassle) to avoid population decline. Maybe it's possible to go further:

A warning when two sims start trying for a baby: "X and Y are trying for a baby... they're going to need a crib soon if they keep that up." Nice to know these things anyway.
Then when the baby pops, if a suitable spot with sufficient surrounding space can be found in the house, a crib could be spawned (and money deducted from household).
Otherwise the player can get another crib warning. If that's ignored, after a couple of nights of the baby sleeping on the floor, the social worker does their thing and takes the kid...
Then there may be a better home (with a crib) available, otherwise it's a drive up to Riverview with a sack and a bunch of rocks.

alyria:
Quote from: Doc Doofus on 2009 August 10, 23:22:55

I don't think it would necessarily be that hard to spawn cribs in good locations.  Spawn them next to a bed.  Even if that's clumsy, it's not unrealistic.  Even when people don't keep their babies right in the bedroom, they keep the babies in hearing distance of their sleeping arrangement, even if it's just a baby monitor.  When you first get a baby home, if you haven't had one before (I've only had one so I can only speak for myself, heh), you find yourself arranging things in a hurry and that can include jamming a crib anywhere it will fit in the room, even blocking doors and TVs.

In TS2, when children got home from school, they would instantly try to place their homework on or as close to a desk as possible.  If the same object-of-a-type search routine is in TS3, a similar thing could be done for cribs.  Instead of identifying an empty spot close to a desk, it could find the closest empty spot on the floor close to a bed.  (The facts that cribs are two-tiles, though, might ruin that whole idea.)


What people don't seem to realize is that cribs are actually FOUR tiles.  When I jumped from house to house to place cribs I usually had to delete a piece of furniture simply because the Maxis houses don't usually leave four unobstructed tiles anywhere inside a house, especially not in the bedrooms.

J. M. Pescado:
Quote from: alyria on 2009 August 11, 01:30:33

What people don't seem to realize is that cribs are actually FOUR tiles.  When I jumped from house to house to place cribs I usually had to delete a piece of furniture simply because the Maxis houses don't usually leave four unobstructed tiles anywhere inside a house, especially not in the bedrooms.
That is the *WRONG* place to be putting a crib.

Gastfyr:
Quote from: J. M. Pescado on 2009 August 11, 01:31:37

Quote from: alyria on 2009 August 11, 01:30:33

What people don't seem to realize is that cribs are actually FOUR tiles.  When I jumped from house to house to place cribs I usually had to delete a piece of furniture simply because the Maxis houses don't usually leave four unobstructed tiles anywhere inside a house, especially not in the bedrooms.
That is the *WRONG* place to be putting a crib.

I know why you say that Pes, but the other options in a lot of those EAxis houses are just as wrong: In the kitchen/dinging/living room right next to the TV/seterio (so babies/toddlers will constantly be worken up by the loud noises), and out on the deck/lawn (which just looks stupid).  I suppose there's always the bathroom...   :P

Motoki:
Or no god damned cribs at all! :P

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