BREAKING NEWS: TSR INSTALLS SPYWARE!
Faded:
Quote from: CheritaChen on 2009 July 31, 01:02:25
Quote from: Faded on 2009 July 30, 23:49:29
Users of TSR are not stupid (as so many of the fanboys here seem to think).
I might agree that not all TSRers are stupid, but that also is moderately dependent upon one's definition of stupidity.
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There IS such a thing as not wanting to spend hours at a time making, obtaining or installing additional content for a videogame. Hence, they're willing to use a Paysite ("Time is Money, Friends"). It has nothing to do with "stupid" so much as "just don't care to spend gross amounts of time".
In this case, I'd lean more toward "ignorant" than "stupid," as in, those who have half a brain and haven't discovered alternative sources for these materials are simply ignorant. Those who have, and still prefer to pay for something that the creators and distributors are legally not permitted to profit from, would be classified as stupid.
I happen to agree that the issue with this purported "spyware/malware" was completely exaggerated here, but so what? MATY seems to be all about drama. And I'm not convinced of TSR's innocence as I, too, tend to consider history a good indicator of probable intent. They've done nefarious things with user info before; I have no reason to believe it is beyond them to do it again.
Quote from: Faded on 2009 July 31, 00:52:43
But, please do keep on insulting me for no reason at all, even though all I've done was said that people are overreacting. I haven't been insulting anyone (even though I'm being attacked).
If you find rohina's reaction surprising or offensive, take this advice: Pretend you never found this forum. It is not a place for you.
Thank you Cherita, I appreciate this. :)
Like I said above, I never have heard of TSR doing anything like that before I came here. History is a good indicator, I would have to agree there, for sure. It's just that no one has ever pulled me aside and told me anything. I'll certainly be more wary of ever using that site again, knowing there is a bad history, for sure.
I do realize there are lots of sites out there for content, it's just one of those things though that you find it through a network of other sites. I didn't know that there was a large collection of goodies here though (being this is the first time I've ever been here - directed from the ModTheSims site!) and I do like! ;D
I'll definitely be filling my hard drive now. Cherita, you simply rock. :)
rohina:
Quote from: Faded on 2009 July 31, 00:52:43
Quote from: SolaceDevotio on 2009 July 31, 00:48:51
Faded, do you have any idea of their history? Don't assume this is the only questionable thing that have ever happened. Don't assume there is no history that leads people to question them now.
No, I did not know there was any sort of history, I've never heard anything about that.
All that I know is the time I used TSR, nothing bad happened to me.
Maybe they've changed for the worse (like I said, I've never heard anything about their history, I guess they've changed since I used it, in which case, it saddens me.)
Oh, so you are an ignoramus as well as fucktard. Go get someone to read coconut's blog to you, and then come back when you have educated yourself.
Kyna:
Quote from: Faded on 2009 July 30, 23:49:29
Users of TSR are not stupid (as so many of the fanboys here seem to think). There IS such a thing as not wanting to spend hours at a time making, obtaining or installing additional content for a videogame. Hence, they're willing to use a Paysite ("Time is Money, Friends"). It has nothing to do with "stupid" so much as "just don't care to spend gross amounts of time".
Why pay for something that is supposed to be free?
There is plenty of good quality FREE CC out there, much of it of better quality than the stuff at TSR. You do have a choice you know: the choice between spending time browsing TSR for CC that costs you money and spending the same amount of time browsing free sites for CC that will cost you nothing. One of these options is definitely smarter than the other, and it's not the TSR option.
Go and read Coconut's blog to find out what TSR have done in the past. Just because nobody pulled you aside personally and made a point of specifically telling you about their past shenanigans doesn't mean those events didn't happen. Those events include sharing user's paypal information and encouraging other paysite owners to do the same. Then there's the question of how someone at TSR (or possibly someone hacking TSR's database as was initially claimed by TSR, although they later backed down from that claim) managed to access TSR's member database to acquire the login details of a creator from MTS2 as well as the login details of one of the owners of TSR.
TSR have already demonstrated that they are not to be trusted with user information. I'm not going to give them a back door into my system, whether they're likely to use it or not, or whether it is currently used or not. I'm just not naive enough to believe that they've reformed from their bad habits.
crunk:
Also, has anyone else heard that Shan0w's photobucket images were replaced with less than family friendly materials within a short amount of time of his TSR tool screenshots surfacing?
Faded:
Quote from: Kyna on 2009 July 31, 02:03:37
Quote from: Faded on 2009 July 30, 23:49:29
Users of TSR are not stupid (as so many of the fanboys here seem to think). There IS such a thing as not wanting to spend hours at a time making, obtaining or installing additional content for a videogame. Hence, they're willing to use a Paysite ("Time is Money, Friends"). It has nothing to do with "stupid" so much as "just don't care to spend gross amounts of time".
Why pay for something that is supposed to be free?
There is plenty of good quality FREE CC out there, much of it of better quality than the stuff at TSR. You do have a choice you know: the choice between spending time browsing TSR for CC that costs you money and spending the same amount of time browsing free sites for CC that will cost you nothing. One of these options is definitely smarter than the other, and it's not the TSR option.
Go and read Coconut's blog to find out what TSR have done in the past. Just because nobody pulled you aside personally and made a point of specifically telling you about their past shenanigans doesn't mean those events didn't happen. Those events include sharing user's paypal information and encouraging other paysite owners to do the same. Then there's the question of how someone at TSR (or possibly someone hacking TSR's database as was initially claimed by TSR, although they later backed down from that claim) managed to access TSR's member database to acquire the login details of a creator from MTS2 as well as the login details of one of the owners of TSR.
TSR have already demonstrated that they are not to be trusted with user information. I'm not going to give them a back door into my system, whether they're likely to use it or not, or whether it is currently used or not. I'm just not naive enough to believe that they've reformed from their bad habits.
Thank you, Kyna! I'll definitely be reading that when I get a chance.
I keep my computer locked down pretty good as adware/antivirus goes (as well as a very strong, protected router), it's beginning to look like those measures I've taken for ages now are the reason I didn't see anything bad happen to me by TSR. :-\
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