BREAKING NEWS: TSR INSTALLS SPYWARE!
mindtempest:
Quote from: J. M. Pescado on 2009 July 25, 07:54:59
Quote from: Nightmare on 2009 July 24, 15:58:14
PEs, provide an scientifical way of reproducing your input, otherwise IŽll have to discard this news as false. I will feel backstabbed, as IŽve trust you many times and now I feel thereŽs no scientifical substance here.
TSR, however, is known to be a nefarious operator: They have acquired and then misused or released to third parties personal information from users in the past. It is reasonable to say that they do so regularly and there is absolutely no physical reason why they would have stopped, and therefore, there is every reason to believe the practice continues. In fact, on PMBD, Johan himself came over to gloat about how undetectable his new system was, because he just couldn't resist the temptation to brag and gloat smugly.
I think the point is that just because one cannot find any message being transmitted in plaintext or an obviously encrypted format does not mean that it definitely is being transmitted as stegotext. True, TSR is a known nefarious site with their ad hell and previous nonsense, but there is no proof of there being any spying activity going on at the moment.
J. M. Pescado:
Quote from: mindtempest on 2009 July 29, 09:29:34
I think the point is that just because one cannot find any message being transmitted in plaintext or an obviously encrypted format does not mean that it definitely is being transmitted as stegotext. True, TSR is a known nefarious site with their ad hell and previous nonsense, but there is no proof of there being any spying activity going on at the moment.
You look at the history, too: TSR *ALSO* has a known history of using underhanded means to collect user information, including passwords, and then either uses them, or gives them away to people, to break into other sites. Two datapoints is a line: When you have capability + history, you have a profile of someone who habitually performs such acts and will do so at every opportunity. Consider, for example, a thief: You know this person has stolen in the past, and still has the use of his hands. Therefore, it stands to reason that he continues to do so and will do so again the moment you give him an opening to do so.
Wolfeyes:
Quote from: Doc Doofus on 2009 July 22, 00:10:41
I have to leap to the defense of the word virii, not because it is correct or even appropriate, but because it is just cool, the way "fambly" is cool, i.e., a nonsense corruption of an otherwise decent word made for the sheer pleasure of indulging in corruption.
Likewise, I defend to the death the word penii as the plural of penis. Yes, I know, penis doesn't end with a -us, but let's not be picayune. Penii has many uses, for instance, in describing mutant genitalia. "And so it came to pass that their baby was born one dark, stormy night, bearing ten itty-bitty fingers, ten perfect itty-bitty toes, each like polished pink pearls, and two clear and unmistakeable penii, one pointing left, one right, like a bi-plane propeller."
A plural of a penis would get my vote any day of the week... the more the merrier I always say... ;) :D ;D :-*
Faded:
Wow.
I'm not here to be the champion of TSR, but SOMEONE needs to break this goofy "omg tsr is so evils :o" train.
Users of TSR are not stupid (as so many of the fanboys here seem to think). There IS such a thing as not wanting to spend hours at a time making, obtaining or installing additional content for a videogame. Hence, they're willing to use a Paysite ("Time is Money, Friends"). It has nothing to do with "stupid" so much as "just don't care to spend gross amounts of time".
I have used TSR before (no viruses, spyware, malware or anything else, ever) and I have my doubts that what the original poster found was actually anything malicious at all. Yes, spyware/malware is bad, if it IS malware that would be pretty terrible, but in all likelihood, it's just that weird Install Wizard they have at their website. It was for downloading content right from their site and installing it via the website without the hassle of unpacking anything. That's... I'm almost 100% sure, the reason the program "connects to the internet".
I haven't seen any "Threat Details" here. Yes, the EULA's legalese is ominous, but so is ALL legalese. Find me legalese that isn't ominous.
I'm not trying to invoke anyone, but I do think people are flipping wigs here for no reason other than they have a wig they need to flip over something.
Rhayden:
Dear TSR shill:
FUCK OFF.
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