BREAKING NEWS: TSR INSTALLS SPYWARE!
AmyLuthien:
Figures they'd pull some crap like this - but then, is anyone actually surprised that they would?
wes_h:
Their programmer has been made aware of the issue. It is a keyboard hook, used because they failed to find the simple way to tell if the ALT key is down when the mouse is moved (for the 3D preview). Examples of how to do this were provided.
While I am inclined to believe them, as their explanation after they discovered they really do set off alerts from AV programs seemed credible, others may not. But the alert is from a keystroke hook, which certainly CAN be abused and is totally unnecessary for any application to do, unless it is some hot-key activated tool (like fraps). When you are the currently active application, you get all the keystrokes from your window port, When you are not, you shouldn't need to see them.
J. M. Pescado:
Quote from: wes_h on 2009 August 10, 02:00:16
Their programmer has been made aware of the issue. It is a keyboard hook, used because they failed to find the simple way to tell if the ALT key is down when the mouse is moved (for the 3D preview). Examples of how to do this were provided.
Haha. This is a joke, right? I see this as nothing more than a transparent ploy to hide a keylogger. Because you can't trap ONE keydown message using the standard Windoze API, you write and install an ENTIRE KEYLOGGER SYSTEM for this? You do realize this "explanation" insults your intelligence, right?
Quote from: wes_h on 2009 August 10, 02:00:16
While I am inclined to believe them, as their explanation after they discovered they really do set off alerts from AV programs seemed credible, others may not. But the alert is from a keystroke hook, which certainly CAN be abused and is totally unnecessary for any application to do, unless it is some hot-key activated tool (like fraps). When you are the currently active application, you get all the keystrokes from your window port, When you are not, you shouldn't need to see them.
See? I told you this was a keylogger. They're trying to steal user passwords, just like they did last time. Once a crook, always a crook.
wes_h:
Quote from: J. M. Pescado on 2009 August 10, 02:03:25
You do realize this "explanation" insults your intelligence, right?
Now I was in the conversation. I said I was inclined to believe their explanation, based on how it played out, but I am not inclined enough to test the program myself. Anyway, I am busy making my own set of tools, and do not need them to provide the research for my work.
J. M. Pescado:
Yes, but keep in mind that they would be saying things that would make you WANT to believe it. You can't listen to what they say about it afterwards, you have to assess things based on their actual capabilities and known behaviors. Never listen to what people say, only to what they do.
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