Save Game Editor - Make things different.

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tryguy:
Hey,

I found this: http://www.modthesims.info/showthread.php?t=350770

It's a save game editor made by TigerM. And it's exceptional. :)

I've only really just begun to use it, but right now, I can go in to a save game and alter a Sim's fitness (body shape) no problem. I use Awesome's Editsim function to alter Townies all the time (mostly face and hair and clothes. And traits and almost everything, really), but as most people know, if you alter the body shape, the original shape just comes back again soon afterwards. We've had this for a long time with no real solution. Until now.

Umm, just from my casual explorations, what you need to permanently change body shapes is to alter these:

+mMembers
  +mSimDescriptions
    +[The Sim you're after]
      +mInitialShape
      +mCurrentShape
      +mDisplayedShape

I think you need to alter all three, or at least I did, just to be safe.

Anyway, in CAS, there are two sliders that alter the Sim's shape. The top slider is actually a composite of two, a "thin" and a "fat", side by side. The middle of the slider is is 0, and if you go right, you change internal values within the range of 0-1, and this relates to fatness. If you go left, same thing, 0-1, relating to thinness. The bottom slider is just a simple one, from 0-1, relating to muscle mass.

Now, within mInitialShape, mCurrentShape, and mDisplayedShape are corresponding labels for these slider bars: Fat, Thin, mFit (and Pregnant, but I haven't investigated this).

Well, the last thing to do is to give some examples:

Nancy Landgraab=0, 0, 0.5
Holly Alto=0, 0, 0.25 (and this seems to be the ideal shape EA thought a hot girl should have. They all have this.)
Bebe Hart=0, 0, 0.25
Bella Bachelor=0, 0, 0.25
Claire Ursine=0.5, 0, 0.5
Dorie Hart=0.5, 0, 0

Nick Alto=0.5, 0, 1

And, from that, I guess you get the picture of how things are stored. So, you just change them to whatever you want (within the range) and then next time you load it up, the Sims will have a permanent new shape. I've tried it. It works flawlessly.

So, that's body shape. I'd be interested in changing ages and things. And, probably a lot more. But, I haven't looked into it yet. I know you can change a Sim's sexual preference pretty easily. So, let's make this thread a place to put discoveries in. If someone comes across a method to alter something neat, just put it up, OK? Not as good as using a mod to do it in real time, but... good enough. And much better than not being able to do jack. :)

If someone could look into where the ages and life stages are kept, that'd be pretty handy...




fiberglassdolphin:
If I save this one neighborhood I have, the save always becomes corrupted and unopenable, even if I edit nothing. I thought it might be the sacred status and/or supreme commander features of awesomemod, but I guess that neighborhood is just screwed up for some reason.

tryguy:
Yeah, I've been playing around with various stuff. Ages within the various life stages seems to be fairly simple. I haven't tried to reset someone to an eariler age, because there's probably a few flags I need to set properly, and I don't have a need for that right now. What I can say is that within the life stages, you can just type in a number within the range to give them whatever number of days (as a ratio, so if you have life-extending mods, like SLAM, then it will work as expected) you want them to have. 0 is always right at the start of the stage.

Anyway, just from casual exploration, here's the rough age ranges:

Toddler=0-1
Child=0-2.25?
Teen=0-2
Young Adult=0-3
Adult=0-3
Elder=0-3

I wouldn't recommend going over the range, and I'm not sure what happens when you get towards the pointy end of the life stage - certainly there are important flags being set, which would need to be reset. But, that's something to look up when the need arises.

What I would like to inquire about is sexual preference. I've been trying to win over Nancy Landgraab with my female Sim, and it's not successful. I've done it before with a male Sim, but with f-f, when I try to flirt with her, she just rejects it, even though the relationship bar is 100%. Anyway, I took a look at the same data, and it turns out that her preferences are: M=4, F=-2. And, this combo is pretty much hardwired into all the married female Sims. Maybe the game automatically sets this when someone gets married? Well, regardless, I thought I could try to sway her into at least being Bi, but it's no dice. Her preferences don't move regardless of how many attempts at flirting happen.

This other girl, started off at M=0, F=0, and now is about M=-35, F=57 (so, highly in favor of females). Given that, I'm wondering if it's even possible for a male to get a look in there. Funnily enough, I think think it is, since she's single. On the whole, I think sexual preference is malleable, except maybe when the Sim is in a traditional marriage. Or something. Can anyone confirm this?

I just play with this stuff as I play the game, so I'll come back when I have more stuff to share.

J. M. Pescado:
Quote from: tryguy on 2009 July 18, 03:08:41

This other girl, started off at M=0, F=0, and now is about M=-35, F=57 (so, highly in favor of females). Given that, I'm wondering if it's even possible for a male to get a look in there. Funnily enough, I think think it is, since she's single. On the whole, I think sexual preference is malleable, except maybe when the Sim is in a traditional marriage. Or something. Can anyone confirm this?
Unlike TS2 default, you cannot warp another sim purely through rejected actions. You must construct additional pylons!

tryguy:
Yeah, it's interesting. And, I'm not just going for the "flirt" option either. I'm trying to compliment her looks (which is the lowest value romantic option I have available), but that's just totally rejected every time. So, I'm pretty sure the romantic interactions are totally locked out (and that's why the prefs aren't moving) at all.

PJ, are you saying that this is possible? Do I need to get her in a amused state and then try to do something flirty? Admittedly, I was trying all this stuff late at night when I headed her off from returning home, so maybe I can try again. At least the relationship bar doesn't take a hit when these rejections happen. That's one thing.

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