Does the Vegetarian Trait affect anything besides food choices?
fway:
Quote from: IgnorantBliss on 2009 July 03, 05:34:58
I wish I liked fish, because it would be a nice source of protein and some healthy kinds of fat. I like fish in an aquarium but not on my plate, though.
You don't know what you're missing. When I was a 6-12 I never really liked the taste of fish. I suppose over the years my taste buds changed and I can enjoy a nice filet of haddock. Shrimp (alone, no cocktail sauce either) is great, too. Salmon steaks with lemon are delicious. When I was a 6 I loved lobster legs. They were probably the only thing I ever ate. Haven't had lobster in a while, though. I don't think I could afford fish due to my budget, unless I got the frozen kind (not fish sticks, but something like "Gorton's" fish filets), but it would be insulting to my taste buds.
chaos:
Some of the Gorton's things are good, believe it or not. They'll never be as good as fresh fish, of course, but they aren't bad, IMO.
caterpillar:
Quote from: Regina on 2009 July 03, 02:33:58
Funny thing. I eat meat therefore I get plenty of protein, potassium, and a lot of amino acids that aren't in any other food source. When I shop for groceries I'm not looking for food substitutes I'm buying food (whether it be meat, fruits, vegetables, nuts, legumes, etc.). I rarely see a vegan or vegetarian NOT look for a meat substitute while shopping. I see products like tofu being advertised for their meat-like qualities and all kinds of weird things like that. (I have tried tofu and that stuff is darned disgusting.) If a particular style of eating is good for a person, why do they need to be looking for substitutes for the foods they don't eat? I don't eat much in the line of grains and I don't bother looking for grain substitutes. I don't eat processed sugar, and I also don't use sugar substitutes.
When you say you rarely see a vegetarian or vegan not looking for a meat substitute, how do you know who is and isn't a vegetarian while shopping? Do you look into people's carts to see if they have meat products? Do you follow around shoppers who don't have meat products to see if they buy tofu or frozen veggie burgers? Why the fuck do you care what other people eat? You are the kind of person some of us were talking about, you see a discussion about vegetarianism in which no one is saying anyone else should give up meat if they don't want, and you come in to tell us why vegetarians are wrong.
Motoki:
Quote from: caterpillar on 2009 July 03, 12:05:24
When you say you rarely see a vegetarian or vegan not looking for a meat substitute, how do you know who is and isn't a vegetarian while shopping? Do you look into people's carts to see if they have meat products? Do you follow around shoppers who don't have meat products to see if they buy tofu or frozen veggie burgers? Why the fuck do you care what other people eat? You are the kind of person some of us were talking about, you see a discussion about vegetarianism in which no one is saying anyone else should give up meat if they don't want, and you come in to tell us why vegetarians are wrong.
Right. And also some non-vegetarians do buy those products too. It does happen. While I am a vegetarian, my mother is very much not one but she loves Morningstar bacon and buys that because she likes her bacon undercooked and is afraid to do it with the real thing so she's fine with having that and does like the taste of it. I also saw a woman in front of my at Trader Joe's once with a whole bunch of meat and dairy products buying Tofutti Cuties (little dairy free ice cream sandwiches made from soy ice cream) so you just never know.
As for the meat substitutes, I like them so what. People are allowed. They're not 'fake foods' they're just processed foods but so are many meat products.
Trubble:
As I said before:
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they don't really taste like meat and don't have the weird bits, I'm a vegetarian for mostly ethical reasons, it prevents arguments about dinner with my carnivorous boyfriend (he seems happy to put up with the fake meat as a compromise) and why the hell shouldn't veggies eat these products? That's who they're made for!
I don't eat them for the protein. I've never once thought "I need more protein, I'd better eat some Quorn". In fact I've never even thought twice about my protein intake. Anyway, I could easily go without the substitutes and live on fruits, veggies and dairy, but why should I when these products exist to add a bit more variety to my diet? I would actually estimate I have some faux meat product 3 days out of the week (usually as part of a healthy home made meal, I don't buy the premade meals), and given 14 lunches and dinners, 3/14 isn't that many.
I wouldn't call many of the meat products on the shelves food either. They're all processed in one way or another depending on how you look at it.
Things only in meat - do they really only exist in meat? I've never been told I'm deficient in anything and as far as I'm aware there are plenty of other places to get the useful nutrients.
I do agree with the part about tofu though, it's disgusting.
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