Does the Vegetarian Trait affect anything besides food choices?
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Quote from: geekgirl on 2009 July 05, 21:10:43
O.o I can't imagine that would be very cost effective. Bullets are, what, a buck apiece?
Guns and explosives are cheap. Bullets are about $0.50 each. We're not talking about specialized ammo for accuracy (match grade, subsonic, etc) or for damage per round (hollow points for eg). At point blank, really, any ball of lead works on the head.
Compare price of bullets to say... hmm... stationery. A good pen could cost even more! Used to be that the "The pen is mightier than the sword". Seems today that "A bullet is cheaper than a pen". Mightier than a pen or not, I don't know.
Quote from: Aquilegia on 2009 July 05, 15:21:29
Quote from: Aaroc on 2009 July 05, 07:21:57
They taste good whether you mistreat them or not.
Oh, you poor, sad thing. Either you've never had properly raised meat, or your tastebuds are so shot you can't taste the difference.
Ah, don't remind me! I live in a city, but do try to get away to the burbs once in a while. The meat sure tastes different, even at fast food restaurants like KFC.
Quote from: CheritaChen on 2009 July 08, 15:35:48
My sentiments exactly. If they're that bothered by it, how can they eat it without puking? To me it seems like these people are missing some vital connective synapses or something. I want to slap these types when I meet them. They're the epitome of hypocrisy in this discussion. If you've got any sense at all, either it bothers you, or it doesn't.
I have some friends who had to do a dissection one morning, then have lunch at a steak house! Heh. Perspectives can change quickly when we look too closely at "what we are made of inside".
Most of us are squeamish about our insides, though we still need to live with our insides.
I read something about 2 key moodlets (in real life): aversion and craving. Supposedly, both are bad. Removing aversion to our insides would allow us to live simpler lives (and not as hypochondriacs). Removing craving to erm, eternal bodily existence, might let us slaughter our foods without getting squeamish (via empathy)?
I once heard someone say: "stand ground/firm and observe/learn, rather than run from one troubled scene to another". Wait, where were we? Ok, I gotta stand my ground, collect my thoughts. Where the hell is my ground? Hmm.
Quote from: kutto on 2009 July 01, 15:24:50
I don't have any evidence of this (no vegetarian sims here), but the ingame text implies that vegetarian have longer lifespans, but will vomit if they eat real meat.
I still want to know this.
I've looked through the GameplayData.package file. Found the nauseous moodlet. But didn't find anything to do with lifespan. The ingame text did put ellipsis ("...") after the "said to live longer lives" thing.
Quote from: J. M. Pescado on 2009 July 09, 08:22:12
I have not seen any evidence supporting this. For that matter, it's not firmly supported in real life...and even if it WERE in the game, it would only extend the part of the lifespan you want to see least, anyway, so lose-lose.
I read something about teeth hollowing out from the inside if we lack meats. It's one (good) thing to have a healthy dose of veggies (to reduce inflamation tendencies?). It's another (bad) thing to miss meats altogether, I think.
About the GameplayData.package, I have a feeling some things are hardcoded. As in, the developers forgot to make them tunable.
Quote from: phyllis_p on 2009 July 04, 08:52:25
Addressing the original question: My veggie-Sim passed on last night at the age of 111. She was also athletic, and would work out to the TV or stereo constantly -- I couldn't keep the woman still! However, I've had Sims live to 125, 109, and 106 without being vegetarian or athletic. Seems to me veggie-Sims get the same 14% chance of croaking every day beyond 90 that any other Sim does, but it's purelly anecdotal.
Thanks for the info! My mid-life crisis is gonna gimme something else other than Vegetarian.
J. M. Pescado:
I have not seen any evidence supporting this. For that matter, it's not firmly supported in real life...and even if it WERE in the game, it would only extend the part of the lifespan you want to see least, anyway, so lose-lose.
IgnorantBliss:
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Removing aversion to our insides would allow us to live simpler lives (and not as hypochondriacs).
I don't understand what you mean by this. Could you elaborate a bit? Simpler how? I don't suffer from aversion to my "insides" but I don't see how it makes my life simpler, or how it would make me less of a hypochondriac.
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I read something about teeth hollowing out from the inside if we lack meats.
What?
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Quote from: viewpoint on 2009 July 09, 08:18:45
Guns and explosives are cheap. Bullets are about $0.50 each. We're not talking about specialized ammo for accuracy (match grade, subsonic, etc) or for damage per round (hollow points for eg). At point blank, really, any ball of lead works on the head.
You pay that much? You're getting ripped off.
Quote from: viewpoint on 2009 July 09, 08:18:45
I read something about teeth hollowing out from the inside if we lack meats. It's one (good) thing to have a healthy dose of veggies (to reduce inflamation tendencies?). It's another (bad) thing to miss meats altogether, I think.
I haven't heard anything like that, although lacking things that are present in the meat and bones of your prey can't be good for your skelebrates. As for vegetables, most vegetables are composed nearly entirely of cellulose and are therefore completely indigestable. The only benefit you get from eating them is roughage (even cats consume things for this purpose), and frankly, that is simply not something that is REALLY necessary given the alternative options of simply eating your sensitive documents you don't want anyone to find.
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Quote from: IgnorantBliss on 2009 July 09, 08:51:48
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Removing aversion to our insides would allow us to live simpler lives (and not as hypochondriacs).
I don't understand what you mean by this. Could you elaborate a bit? Simpler how? I don't suffer from aversion to my "insides" but I don't see how it makes my life simpler, or how it would make me less of a hypochondriac.
That was a simplistic example for illustrative purposes, that bit about making life simpler and less hypochrondiac-like.
The aversion part... lemme see how to explain it. Ok. If my Sim dies of old age, I can see it in one of 2 ways. I can be pained, wondering when there ever will be a time when a Sim grows up exactly like it did, with all the memories that it accrued.
Or I can just let go, understanding nature for what it is. Everything that has a beginning has an end. And before we all get too emo from this, that's not the end of it! Everything that has an end has a beginning. Energy cannot be destroyed; only converted from one form to another.
If I am averse to old age or death, then I might do stupid things when faced with those parts of nature. I can become irrational.
If I crave old age or death (or living), I could also become stupid.
I love Kung Fu Panda for a cute saying that the wise and lovely Oo Guay (Turtle) quipped. "Yesterday is history, tomorrow is mystery, today is a gift and that's why we call it the present". I know, it's an old adage, and it's probably trite by now. But it's still cute.
Hold firm to the present, because it is the only thing we can mould. Anything is possible in the future, as long as we work with the present.
Quote from: IgnorantBliss on 2009 July 09, 08:51:48
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I read something about teeth hollowing out from the inside if we lack meats.
What?
Yeah, my reactions too when I first read it. rosenshyne posted something about plants screaming when killed. I remember reading something about Buddhism forbidding even the killing of plants. But I'm no expert.
I just eat what I eat. Avoid addictions (sugar, salt, anything). And just be at peace as much as I can. Oh, dang that fly! I'm a kill you later! Peacefully. :P
But veggie is the only defence we got against inflammatory tendencies, I think. Just about any ailments has to do with inflammations: old age, allergies, scleroses, etc.
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