Does the Vegetarian Trait affect anything besides food choices?

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minidoxigirli:
Quote from: Trubble on 2009 July 04, 09:14:27

You don't think something that's going to be giving up it's life so that you can fill your belly deserves to be treated with respect? I'm not saying don't eat em I'm saying they deserve respect. Unlike apples they do feel pain. 


I'm in a Social and Moral Ethics class and we just read a bunch of essays about the morality of eating meat.  One interesting opinion in one of the essays is that with rights comes responsibilities.  Since we cannot hold animals accountable for their actions (aka jail and other punishments), then they do not have rights.  I'm not saying I agree with this, just interesting food for thought.

HomeschooledByTards:
I grew up as an omnivore and my husband grew up vegetarian. I love many of the canned "fake meat" products from Loma Linda and Worthington as well as the frozen Morningstar Farms stuff. Fri-Chik, Scallops, Tender Bits, Stripples/Morning Star Farms Breakfast Strips, etc. I don't care much for tofu, except from this one chain restaurant in my area. So. Good.

rosenshyne:
Quote from: Trubble on 2009 July 04, 09:14:27

Unlike apples they do feel pain. 





This message only for those vegetarians making this an ethical choice. Those of you choosing based on flavor or texture, carry on.

caterpillar:
"Sounds like" screaming isn't necessarily really screaming.
FWIW, my 'ethical choice' isn't about the slaughtering of animals. Animals kill and eat other animals, and humans are no different from the other animals. I don't approve of many of the practices of industrial farming, the way the animals are forced to live before slaughter, so your argument doesn't really blow all ethical vegetarians out of the water.
What I fail to understand is why any mention of vegetarianism, in which no one is trying to convert meat eaters, always brings out people who want to prove vegetarians are wrong. Why the fuck do you care what other people eat? Why does it bother you that someone has made a different lifestyle choice than you?

IgnorantBliss:
Quote from: minidoxigirli on 2009 July 04, 19:19:10

I'm in a Social and Moral Ethics class and we just read a bunch of essays about the morality of eating meat.  One interesting opinion in one of the essays is that with rights comes responsibilities.  Since we cannot hold animals accountable for their actions (aka jail and other punishments), then they do not have rights.  I'm not saying I agree with this, just interesting food for thought.


That is an interesting theory, but what if we apply that to young children, or severely retarded or mentally ill grown-ups, who also may be judged not to be accountable for their actions. Do they not have rights, either, then? Was that discussed in the class? I'm thinking that theory has a giant loophole in it.

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