Donwload not included, so not for Pudding Factory: New Hair CC by Peggy

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Slymenstra:
Quote from: Zaphod Beeblebrox on 2009 June 27, 03:30:10

Yeah, a Sim(Hair)Guru already stated that over at the crap board (kind of expected this sort of issue anyway because I was reminded of the Sims 2 issue with the first "long dress-like shirts" that were made which were crashing the game when you used the phone).  There was also this:

"First off, this appears to be a Sims 2 asset that was converted to Sims 3. Due to performance reasons we're restricted to a certain amount of Vertices per hair, this hair mod exceeds that number. So for lower end computers, it can lead to slow down and cause instability like crashes and game freezing."



That excuse is a bunch of bullshit.  My computer is brand new with good hardware in it.  My graphics are all maxed and I have no lag and 0 crash issues.  I only crashed when I was at a distance with that hair installed.  To me that means something is messed up in the hair at a distance.  They failed...

I don't mind beta testing CC so that we can finally get things to work, but they should not blame the user.  I know how to install mods and my computer is very good.

Edited: I downloaded the new version and I no longer crash at a distance.  I just can't get over the 500 mile high forehead.  Yuck.

HystericalParoxysm:
Quote from: Drakron on 2009 June 27, 00:38:53

Peggy added a new mesh, the problem we current face is there is no way to actually create new ID numbers for new meshes, everything ends up taking up a existing ID number and also it seems Peggy also used Delphy CAS Unitool that so far is limited in use.

If anyone do not understand what LOD means ... its simple, it stands for "level of detail" and TS2 actually used for different level of detail options but mesh creators just used the "High" LOD since it was what most users did.

TS3 on the other had have the "seamless neighborhood" and so LOD is also used depending on how close the mesh is to the camera, zoomed out means they will use the lowest detailed (and intensive) LOD option and zoomed in means they will used the highest LOD option.


Delphy's CTU contains no propert support for hair right now - what it outputs if you try to use hair just screws stuff up.  She couldn't have used it to do anything for hers.  Delphy's been working on updating it for hair meshes as I've got replacements working just fine.

Lower LOD meshes aren't just used for zoom in TS3 but also for the portrait image: right now I have a hair that replaces the highest LOD but the portrait images are unchanged.

(Not specifically to you) ...Someone asked upthread why she would replace so many resources.  Not only are there LOD things to replace but if you use a different mapping/textures, you have to replace those too.  Basically like having a mesh + textures for a TS2 hair but ya gotta do all of 'em.  The one I'm working on needs a -lot- of stuff replaced so the file's actually kinda big.  Files tend to be big for TS3.  I think it'll balance out in the end though since you won't need umptyjillion recolours of the same mesh.


If you were having problems with Peggy's and you're willing to be a guinea pig...  Can you please PM me here or on MTS?  I have a hair that's nearing completion (enough to be tested) and would like to get at least a couple other people confirming it doesn't crash their game before I put it up for the masses.

brownlustgirl:
Sent you a PM @ MTS.  :D

minx:
Quote from: Sigmund on 2009 June 27, 06:50:57

Heh, maybe just she decided to make it a beta version after all the complaints about crashing. Something alone the lines of, "Oh, you mean this screws up everyone's game? Well, it's just a test version, guys!"

Anyway, isn't this something she would have noticed if she tried it in her own game? Or is it just lower-end computers that are having problems?


I've been playing on my boyfriends supa-computer while I'm here for the summer, and its definately not lower-end by any means. Hes tests new hardware/builds computers for a living.. his current box is top of the line.. ddr3, solid state, the whole shebang.. it'd be hard to find better.

That said.. lower end computers are definately not the cause of the crashes - I crashed to desktop everytime I zoomed in/out or went into buy mode with it installed on this machine, which is better than what probably 99% of people are using.

Rockermonkey:
I'm pretty sure Peggy just failed. Since I'm having no crashing with HP...so the peggster did something wrong.

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