IMPORTANT DESIGN POLL
Sigmund:
Quote from: minidoxigirli on 2009 June 18, 00:08:49
I'm on a laptop, so I don't have a scrollwheel. I sometimes use my mouse, but the scrollwheel has been acting up lately (it will scroll, but clicking and holding it does nothing). For scrolling, I can use the side of the pad, and for clicking and holding the scrollwheel, Sims 3 allows me to hold down both the right and the left mouse buttons. That doesn't work in all games, though. So basically, I have the capabilities to use a scrollwheel, but in different forms. I hope that wouldn't be a problem.
If Awesomemod does end up needing a scrollwheel, give us a little advance notice, so that us strangeos can take care of our system.
As long as your laptop is capable of scrolling, it doesn't sound like it's a problem. See below.
Quote from: J. M. Pescado on 2009 June 17, 23:57:55
Quote from: cassblonde on 2009 June 17, 18:09:24
I'm a bit of a freak and use a tablet for everything(this one) it does have a touch ring on it that I use to zoom in and out so I have the functionality without an actual mouse with a wheel.
Then you do, in fact, have a scrolly wheel, regardless of its physical form.
Mootilda:
Quote from: J. M. Pescado on 2009 June 17, 23:57:55
Quote from: Mootilda on 2009 June 17, 18:19:42
I'm afraid that requiring a scrolly-wheel could be a problem for me. What feature is going to require it?
I have discovered that the menu for the Interaction Tones, once the list grows longer than can fit on the screen, can only be scrolled using the scrolly wheel. Z and X are not acceptable substitutes, as these keys are bound to zoom-in/zoom-out and respond as such when pressed under those conditions. Right NOW, it's not a problem at all, but I am forward-facing.
OK, I'm stumped. What is an interaction tone? If this is something to do with sounds, then it's irrelevant to me since I play with sounds off.
Quote from: J. M. Pescado on 2009 June 17, 23:57:55
Quote from: Mootilda on 2009 June 17, 18:19:42
This is not a monetary issue for me, but an issue of ability; I am unable to use a standard mouse.
Does whatever you use have an equivalent analogous functionality? The actual presence of the wheel is not as important as the ability to issue the command. If you have a means of scrolling a page or zooming in and out without resorting to Z/X or the arrow keys, then you still have a scrolly wheel.
Yes, the device has a scroll wheel; no, I cannot use it. Well, I suppose it depends upon how often and how long I had to use it. I certainly couldn't use it in normal play; I might be able to use it with my other hand.
Sorry to be such a bother, but if you could explain a bit more about what it will be used for, I would be better able to tell you whether it will seriously impact my ability to play.
minidoxigirli:
Quote from: Sigmund on 2009 June 18, 00:21:33
As long as your laptop is capable of scrolling, it doesn't sound like it's a problem. See below.
Figured as much, but I thought it couldn't hurt to describe how my process works. I don't know if the Sims3 coding treats it differently, since I know absolutely nothing about programming.
Zazazu:
Quote from: Georgette on 2009 June 17, 22:12:09
Quote from: LFox on 2009 June 17, 21:56:09
Quote from: moondance on 2009 June 17, 21:07:39
I couldn't stand to play TS2 or TS3 without my scroll wheel.
I tried sims 3 on my brothers computer briefly where the scroll wheel wasn't working for some reason. Needless to say i couldn't do anything since i use the scroll wheel for adjusting the view constantly. I told him to fix the damn scroll wheel and well he did.
Yup, I agree completely.
How can anyone NOT use a scroll wheel?
Tilt camera with CTRL-click-drag. Zoom with X and Z. It's actually much more precise this way, and no tendonitis.
anaximander:
Quote from: Mootilda on 2009 June 18, 00:42:35
Quote from: J. M. Pescado on 2009 June 17, 23:57:55
Quote from: Mootilda on 2009 June 17, 18:19:42
I'm afraid that requiring a scrolly-wheel could be a problem for me. What feature is going to require it?
I have discovered that the menu for the Interaction Tones, once the list grows longer than can fit on the screen, can only be scrolled using the scrolly wheel. Z and X are not acceptable substitutes, as these keys are bound to zoom-in/zoom-out and respond as such when pressed under those conditions. Right NOW, it's not a problem at all, but I am forward-facing.
OK, I'm stumped. What is an interaction tone? If this is something to do with sounds, then it's irrelevant to me since I play with sounds off.
Quote from: J. M. Pescado on 2009 June 17, 23:57:55
Quote from: Mootilda on 2009 June 17, 18:19:42
This is not a monetary issue for me, but an issue of ability; I am unable to use a standard mouse.
Does whatever you use have an equivalent analogous functionality? The actual presence of the wheel is not as important as the ability to issue the command. If you have a means of scrolling a page or zooming in and out without resorting to Z/X or the arrow keys, then you still have a scrolly wheel.
Yes, the device has a scroll wheel; no, I cannot use it. Well, I suppose it depends upon how often and how long I had to use it. I certainly couldn't use it in normal play; I might be able to use it with my other hand.
Sorry to be such a bother, but if you could explain a bit more about what it will be used for, I would be better able to tell you whether it will seriously impact my ability to play.
Okay. He did explain what it's for - it's for changing the quality of work while you're on the job - the tones are the bits in the box that say things like "play golf" "suck up to boss" "work hard", etc. He's saying that if he expands that box with yet-to-come options, it may require use of the scroll wheel to access them all. He can't map it to the normal scroll hotkeys because those revert to zoom no matter what.
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