What, in Heaven's name, is up with traits?! Scary Pic included
crunk:
Quote from: OpiumGirl on 2009 June 16, 04:10:34
Are outside links to pics allowed? I can't locate anything against it. Many may hate me for this...but, let's just have a laugh!
*cut hotlinked pic*
Please upload that to photobucket/tinypic/wherever rather than hotlinking MTS... you do realize that hotlinking is generally considered to be both very rude and actually IS bandwidth theft, right?
Magicmoon:
Quote from: OpiumGirl on 2009 June 16, 04:10:34
:D!! I didn't know if I shouild be offended by the whole Korean statement. My gut feeling was "yes", but "tard" may work depending on whether or not that's a politically correct statement by itself.
I don't understand how you can be a member of this site since 2006 and yet not understand the MATY use of the word tard, but evidently, you need to lurk moar. Xenophobic tards have no place here.
Quote from: funnykid on 2009 June 15, 15:53:26
The "Before" looks more natural, whereas the "After" looks like she had little tweaks done by a Korean plastic surgeon.
You didn't know if you should be offended by this statement, which means you weren't offended, but rather asked yourself if being offended was the politically correct thing to do.
Would you have continued to be ambivalent if unfunny12 had used your race or country of origin instead of Korean? What if he had said Afro-American plastic surgeon? Would your politically correct conscious then tell you that you should be offended?
Unfunny12 could have easily said "poorly trained plastic surgeon" but instead chose to use wording specifically crafted to disparage a large group of people.
I'm not trying to pick on you, OpiumGirl. No one else in this thread seems to be concerned that two sovereign states and an entire race were denigrated, so I guess it's OK to demean anyone that happens to reside in Onebiglumpistan. That is, until someone with authority tells us that it is politically incorrect, at which point we should modify our behavior and pretend that was our stance all along. Because there are neither rights nor wrongs, just political correctness, and thinking for ourselves is just too much of a hassle.
VacantBlue:
Quote from: OpiumGirl on 2009 June 15, 03:24:45
I understand that in real life, certain traits don't translate well between sexes but, something just seems so off. Look at the jaw and tiny nose on the woman. It's just wrong. Everything just looks wrong. The fellow has a very normal jaw, even a little wider on the scale and yet, she shows up like this.
Is there something wrong in the transition, bug-wise?
I agree that the jaw did not translate well to the female clone. It should have been more square. I also don't know where she got that brow. He does not appear to have that huge, silly clown-like arch in the eyebrow. On the other hand, I think that the nose translated very well to the female version. The male's nose is a bit high on the face which actually suits him well. However, with the female shrunken nose, the distance is too enlarged and the nose appears way too high. It almost appears as if she smells some foul odor.
Your tweaked female looks much more like the sister of the male Sim than the clone to me. I don't think beauty has anything to do with it - the clone simply appears to have an odd combination of features not are necessarily ugly, but they are odd. The features for the tweaked female simply are more in tune with one another and she looks much more like a sibling to the male.
It's probably not a bug. Just stupid EA. I think TS2 did a very similar thing to the female/male version of the faces. It has never made a whole lot of sense to me.
GnatGoSplat:
Quote from: MasterDinadan on 2009 June 16, 06:38:53
Can't tell you how much I agree with this. I know that these are not real people we are judging, but it still seems sad to me that our society focuses so much on superficial details. Some of these Sims may not be perfect but I honestly think people are getting a little bit out of hand with their criticisms. I have found in general that the Sims we have in TS3 are pretty good looking. Were people expecting every randomly generated CAS Sim to look like a super model or something?
When most people in real life are more attractive than the Sims, I'd have to say the criticisms are deserved. I would have expected at least some of the characters in an idealized game world to be attractive, but I didn't find that to be the case at all.
Quote from: Fubuki
It seems to me that we judge females more harshly than males when it comes to physical appearance, and we're so conditioned to it that we don't even notice this glaring double standard. People continue to point out "fugly" girls and women in TS3, but so far I have yet to see one person complain about the looks of the guys. It reminds me of high school when everyone seemed to think that ugly was the worst possible insult you could throw at a girl; apparently, I was the only one who thought that stupid and boring were far worse.
When it comes to physical attractiveness, double-standards are definitely obvious. Like it or not, they'll always be around because there are psychological and biological forces driving them.
Actually, many of the Sims 3 guys actually look okay to me. There are a few uggos of course, but I've found many that don't look too bad. I think this is part of the reason most of the females look so ugly. Where in Sims 2 there were drastic differences in facial structure between male and female (even the head size/shape differed), in Sims 3 these differences don't seem as pronounced. The pre-made faces tend to lean towards more masculine features, like wide jaws and large chins which looks okay on males but makes females less feminine and therefore less attractive.
Alex:
I have to agree that a lot of the males haven't turned out too bad (not great, but not horrific). But as for the females... Bar one or two that looked okay, the majority of them are hideous as they tend to suffer more from puddingface and masculine features. Elders look pretty bad as well, as the game seems to automatically give them extreme pudding faces regardless of what they looked like before. My sim, who I thought looked decent enough to not make me vomit, now looks vomitworthy as an elder because of this.
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