Sex
Farsight:
There are definite modifiers to that friendship bar and actions. Mood, what they're thinking ("friendly", "flirty", "irresistable"), other relationships (if they have another boyfriend, they have to like your sim more to have any chance of cheating unless other modifiers apply), Traits... and probably one or two more I haven't noticed.
Mood and other relationships seem to be the biggest causes of the "Eww, no!" reaction, but Traits are definitely factoring in as well. It's entirely possible that a Snob sim is going to be a pain to romance for a poor sim. Other situations may be coming up that the game isn't giving good feedback about.
But, frankly, the social part of the game being so ridiculously easy is my only real complaint with the game, so I wouldn't want it any simpler. Once you add Charisma and a couple perks, any troll sim can take any new acquaintance from meeting to impregnated in a couple sim-hours, regardless of that sims' personality or previous relationship. Further, the "living town" never takes note that "Big Humpy" down the street has fathered half the town's children with twenty different women. No child support, no public scorn... no, the ladies just keep stepping up to be served.
It's difficult to feel like you're running around in an open world, when that world doesn't notice you're there. You can't even get them to erect (ahem) a statue of you. There's no way to leave a lasting impression in the Sim world other than by raising a clone. Sim life is even more futile and meaningless than real life!
sewinglady:
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But, frankly, the social part of the game being so ridiculously easy is my only real complaint with the game, so I wouldn't want it any simpler. Once you add Charisma and a couple perks, any troll sim can take any new acquaintance from meeting to impregnated in a couple sim-hours, regardless of that sims' personality or previous relationship. Further, the "living town" never takes note that "Big Humpy" down the street has fathered half the town's children with twenty different women. No child support, no public scorn... no, the ladies just keep stepping up to be served.
Actually, I kind of played my last neighborhood that way on purpose - it got a little hard by the time one of the founding fathers went to his grave a very contented old man having fathered 26 children by something like 20 mothers (there were twins).
I've always played for the genetic and more 'Peyton Place' aspects of the game...I read some interview with an employee at EA working on the project when in development and he said they were moving 'futher up 'Maslow's Heirarchy of Needs'... I thought "wow! someone took psychology 101 at the local community college"... and wouldn't it be nice if sims in sims3 weren't fixated on peeing and showering...guess I shouldn't have gotten my hopes up so much, huh?
Edited to add - I got off on that tangent and didn't finish my thought - I think it would be very cool if in this game there were repurcussions like you are saying...that would be very interesting for me and would make me WANT to play instead of wanting to forget I ever bought this thing.
Oh and I think I might have figured it out - she's got the lucky trait - he has the unlucky trait - he got 'unlucky'...
Kiirkas:
I couldn't figure out why I'd only ever seen the "Propose Going Steady" interaction once. After reading this thread I went into my game, used only Romantic socials on two of my sims and finally solidified their relationship. They each thought the other was "extremely irresistible" and then I tested the status by doing one friendly interaction and their opinion of each other plummeted to "okay". What a shitty mechanic.
Also, it would have been nice if, when I selected "WooHoo", the two of them had gone at it on the kitchen counter right next to where they were standing instead of dragging their asses up to bed for more boring, barking sex under the covers. What's so wrong with counter sex?
Nefertiti:
Quote from: Gus Smedstad on 2009 June 09, 03:57:52
Quote from: Zazazu on 2009 June 08, 15:58:06
I've had meet-to-marry in less than 24 hours
I had my older Sim roll a Have a Child Wish while the house was full of his 6 kids and his wife was too old for more babies anyway. So I gave him a mid-life crisis and had him chase down some 20-something, woo her, and impregnate her. From "meet" to "bear my child" was about 6-7 hours. He ended up with 2 kids with her.
Romance is too easy in this game, compared to the delays forced by the long-term relationship meter in TS2. However, I do appreciate that a single flirt doesn't turn a friendship into instant love.
Two things bug me about the game. The Sims rarely roll romance-related Wishes, even if they have the Hopeless Romantic trait. "Have a Child," yes, but no "flirt with that attractive Sim" and only rarely "kiss so-and-so" or "woohoo so-and-so." I've never, ever seen "marry" or "get engaged."
The other is the way non-playables spontaneously generate children without anyone else. Having the kids with the townie allowed me to look at their family tree, and their half-brother did not have a father. Similarly, I got sick of looking for a romantic interest for one of my Sims, so I created a neighbor guy for her. They did OK, but then she discovers on the second date that he's got a newborn.
Awesomemod fixes this, but I get the impression it's still very much in early beta. I'm not willing to trade annoyances for crashes at this point.
- Gus
I actually had a sim or two roll up the wish to propose to their girlfriend/boyfriend. Woohoo as well, but only with a sim that was already at least a steady relationship. Also didn't ever see a wish to initiate something more romantic (e.g. flirt with an attractive iacquaintance.
dramamine:
Quote from: Kiirkas on 2009 June 09, 19:15:07
Also, it would have been nice if, when I selected "WooHoo", the two of them had gone at it on the kitchen counter right next to where they were standing instead of dragging their asses up to bed for more boring, barking sex under the covers. What's so wrong with counter sex?
Yes, counter sex would be awesome. Same as couch sex, floor sex, and shower sex, but I think in order to sell the game to minors they had to censor the sex aspect by imposing what sex should be. Lame, in a bed, under blankets, with rose petals ???, and making weird and unsexy noises at each other. If you had some sims humping on the loveseat, censorship would be kind of difficult, IMO.
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