How do you protect your right to piracy?
Kyna:
Quote from: Nimrod on 2009 June 15, 03:01:36
SecuROM hasn't presented me with any issues beyond minute memory usage and process cycles, I haven't experienced any sort of interference with other programs and stuffs. Rootkits really piss me off though.
Lucky you. My daughter and that other person we know both had to replace their CD/DVD drives as a result of SecuROM.
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I think we're relatively on the same page, you refuse to install SecuROM while I refuse to pay for something that I can't return if I'm not satisfied, simply because I MAY have copied the product to use illegally.
Not quite the same page. I refuse to install or pay for a version of secuROM that installs itself on my computer. It's a fine distinction, but an important one. This difference means that while you are happy to pay for an ARRed game if you find you like it, I know beforehand that I will *never* pay for any TS2 EP or SP released after they started including SecuROM. I won't pay for malware.
Keep in mind that the average simmer is not your average gamer, we're a unique demographic in the gaming community. We tend to be bitten by the "gotta own them all" bug (so yes, we want the EPs & SPs that come with SecuROM, but preferably without the SecuROM), but we are generally less likely to ARR until something like SecuROM comes along and changes our perspective on ARRing.
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I did stray from the original model of either, or. Check it out, http://usenet-news.net/index1.php?url=get you can buy blocks that have no expiration date. What is 100 gigabytes of data worth? I'd say $23 is an acceptable amount, considering 100GB is a hugh amount of data!
No shilling.
morriganrant:
Or, you can hop on IRC and get your pirate cat fix that way. All this nonsense about newsgroups.
Also, Securom screwed with my anti-virus and firewall.
Fat D:
Quote from: Nimrod on 2009 June 15, 02:16:52
Mr. Presidente, you are failing to keep things within the proper context here. The amount paid is nothing when you compare it to what you've saved. Chumpy lil' $50 buck games aren't all there is to be had. Just think, for a small fee you get quality products that range a very broad spectrum. TIVO is something that comes to mind. FUCK TIVO, as I've read elsewhere. I watch commercial free TV that's delivered speedily and on demand as I wish. Of course, I did buy a Western Digital media player, and nifty passport drive in matching color and two 32MB flash drives, so I could free the laptop from the entertainment center. Worth every cent, it was.
I understand your point and your purpose. My point, however, is that some things, tangible or otherwise, are worth the costs. If I spend $20 USD for a month of usenet service (which I do not because I get great service through ISP - I have paid for it in the past) and I obtain just one $50 game, how have I defeated the purpose? I paid for a service and obtained a game through that service. However you see this, the purpose wasn't defeated because I've saved $30 at the least, I've retained my anonymity and I wasn't bothered by P2P limitations and such. If anything, I'm paying for the convenience and the safety of privacy, excluding ISP logging. Then as the games, programs and media mount, that $20 is such a small fraction of the possible costs, that the cost itself is extremely justified. But then, maybe my logic buffers are fried and I'm seeing this all wrong.
I do not think a pirate copy has the monetary value of a licensed copy for a simple reason - it lacks the license, which is what you actually pay for when you buy the software. For that reason, unlicensed copies are not worth being paid for more than the costs of data storage and transfer, which means the slowdown of network tubes and your computer and possibly additional power-on time, which slightly increases electricity consumption.
Chain_Reaction:
I don't see why anyone would pay EA a cent after the whole Securom thing, I haven't after I installed BV unknowing it'd be the last of my CD ROM. First I noticed the burner died, then it stopped reading discs, now it's permanently crippled and won't even open anymore. All happened within a week of installing so I know what did it. I've left it broke all this time because I don't really need it. I couldn't even put the Sims 3 disk in it if I wanted to, their fault, not mine.
J. M. Pescado:
Quote from: Nimrod on 2009 June 15, 02:16:52
Mr. Presidente, you are failing to keep things within the proper context here. The amount paid is nothing when you compare it to what you've saved. Chumpy lil' $50 buck games aren't all there is to be had. Just think, for a small fee you get quality products that range a very broad spectrum. TIVO is something that comes to mind. FUCK TIVO, as I've read elsewhere. I watch commercial free TV that's delivered speedily and on demand as I wish. Of course, I did buy a Western Digital media player, and nifty passport drive in matching color and two 32MB flash drives, so I could free the laptop from the entertainment center. Worth every cent, it was.
None of those things have any worth to me whatsoever. I don't even own a TV.
Quote from: Nimrod on 2009 June 15, 02:16:52
I understand your point and your purpose. My point, however, is that some things, tangible or otherwise, are worth the costs. If I spend $20 USD for a month of usenet service (which I do not because I get great service through ISP - I have paid for it in the past) and I obtain just one $50 game, how have I defeated the purpose?
1. By paying money to someone else, you've compromised your anonymity through THAT service, too.
2. Pirate Cat does not pay for his downloads. Period.
Quote from: Nimrod on 2009 June 15, 02:16:52
I paid for a service and obtained a game through that service. However you see this, the purpose wasn't defeated because I've saved $30 at the least, I've retained my anonymity and I wasn't bothered by P2P limitations and such. If anything, I'm paying for the convenience and the safety of privacy, excluding ISP logging. Then as the games, programs and media mount, that $20 is such a small fraction of the possible costs, that the cost itself is extremely justified. But then, maybe my logic buffers are fried and I'm seeing this all wrong.
They're fried. You're missing one very important concept that has entirely eluded you:
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