Important notice from the GRAMMAR POLICE. Plz read. This means you.
originalhalf:
Quote from: Lorelei on 2009 July 13, 20:56:26
ATL has a number of these "traps" for the unwary, notably "Ponce de Leon" street. Say a form approximating "pawhnz del ee OHN" and you're wrong. It's "pahnce DEE LEE on". "LaVista" is not "luh VIST-uh" it is "LAH VEE-stur."
Add to that the conflict between the educated and uneducated in ATL, and you get natives saying something wrong due to ignorance or accent, and other natives eye-rolling. It's not "SMEAR-neh" it is "SMUR-nah." It's not "Kenner-SAW" it's "KEN-eh-saw." And, "MAY-retta" is REALLY wrong, it is "MAHR-ee-et-uh."
*is smug that she is a yankee that speaks correct southern*
rufio:
Missed this:
Quote from: Roflganger on 2009 July 13, 19:15:09
Quote from: rufio on 2009 July 13, 19:08:03
Interesting - in-IV-a-TIV is also iambic, contrasted to trochaic IN-a-VAY-tiv.
I'm debating with myself as to whether the 4th syllable is stressed; my guess is that it is not, unless "initiative" is also iambic, as they have the same pattern of emphasis.
I would say it is, or at least it's a secondary stress (speaking of "initiative"). That is, the fourth syllable is stressed compared to the third syllable; stress isn't about is-it versus isn't-it, but about which syllables are more stressed than others.
Quote from: CheritaChen on 2009 July 13, 21:20:35
Unfortunately we have inherited some of that, thanks to New England. Worcester, Massachusetts has to be the fault of the colonists. "Woo-ster"? Really? Come on.
Apparently there is also a place in England called Cholmondeley which is pronounced Chumly.
rohina:
Quote from: originalhalf on 2009 July 13, 21:30:53
*is smug that she is a yankee that speaks correct southern*
Just as well you have something to be smug and correct about, because your pronouns are anything but correct.
originalhalf:
You don't always get perfection from 457 year olds. I finna work on dat fo sho.
Simsample:
Quote from: CheritaChen on 2009 July 13, 21:20:35
Unfortunately we have inherited some of that, thanks to New England. Worcester, Massachusetts has to be the fault of the colonists. "Woo-ster"? Really? Come on.
I live quite close to the original Worcester, and unfortunately there are quite a few other odd names around here too. Gloucester (pronounced gloster), Cirencester (pronounced Siren-ses-ter), Leominster (pronounced Lemster) and Tewkesbury (pronounced by the locals as Chooks-burry) are just a few that spring to mind. It's always quite interesting to hear how these names are pronounced in the states, where many of the same place names exist.
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