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rohina:
Quote from: TheQuietOne on 2009 June 16, 23:07:40
It's interesting to see that opinion on special treatment of children with different levels of ability is so inconsistent. Accommodating needs of children with LD is seen as society pampering them, at the same time catering to the needs of advanced students is seen as a duty of educational system.
The issue here is that the playing field is not level, and that the needs of the advanced students are ignored in favour of those who are struggling. The most common example of this occurring is that brighter students are often required to mentor or tutor slower ones; this is seen as a solution to the problem of disparate abilities in the classroom, but effectively it only benefits the child being tutored, while the tutor is as bored and unchallenged by the material as he/she was previously.
@stupio, I gave an example well before you started charging around with your headpeen, actually. I gave the second one in response to a series of comments from other people, so don't act like you are somehow the saviour of debate.
With regard to the student who was not my student; no I can't be more specific. I saw one piece of her written work, which was basically a mess of unrelated words. The rest of the situation I knew about because my colleague discussed it with me. We have, oddly enough, a collegial atmosphere, where faculty discuss students and pedagogy with one another. No doubt you have some huge objection to this that you will drag out in your next response.
MuertoElBarto:
Quote from: rohina on 2009 June 17, 01:11:33
With regard to the student who was not my student; no I can't be more specific. I saw one piece of her written work, which was basically a mess of unrelated words. The rest of the situation I knew about because my colleague discussed it with me. We have, oddly enough, a collegial atmosphere, where faculty discuss students and pedagogy with one another. No doubt you have some huge objection to this that you will drag out in your next response.
I suspect you were meant to answer with something more specific, so that your qualifications to make such a diagnosis could then be questioned.
I wish I had thought to insist on special treatment during my stellar four 5 1/2 years as an undergrad, as I am ambition-impaired, and my professors did nothing to accomodate my condition.
Edit: strikethrough doesn't play well with the number 4.
rohina:
Quote from: MuertoElBarto on 2009 June 17, 01:25:47
I wish I had thought to insist on special treatment during my stellar 4 5 1/2 years as an undergrad, as I am ambition-impaired, and my professors did nothing to accomodate my condition.
Yeah, you totally missed a chance there. My best student ever was the one this semester who went totally off on me for not accommodating her disability, even though she hadn't actually gotten around to requesting accommodations at that point.
DrNerd:
Eh, even when you accommodate, they still whine that you didn't bend over quite far enough. I had a girl who got mono halfway through the semester, extended the deadline for the third paper until the night before grades were due, and she gave me a paragraph and asked if she could have more time. Uh, NO, grades are due at noon. It took you three weeks to write this paragraph, so I won't hold my breath for a miracle. Or you sit down and go through the paper with them line-by-line because they actually showed up during your office hours, which at least shows some initiative, and when they get the final paper back, they accuse you of hating them and wanting them to fail because you didn't rubber-stamp it with an A, and dislike the reply of, "I told you what to fix and how to do it; I have no control over whether or not you actually did it, and did it right."
And then there was this guy. I'm not sure how he survived long enough to get into my class. In the past, he probably would have been left for the wolves or sacrificed to the thunder god or something.
The assignment was to describe a meal in objective terms. It was supposed to be 1-2 pages. This is what he turned in:
"It is Thursday night or what my friends like to call "poker night" at their apartment. It is midnight and after four hours of drinking beer and playing cards one of my friends mentions ordering food. Even though the idea of food had not crossed my mind because of the focus on cards as soon as it is mentioned I immediately start to crave wings. Me and a few of my friends call an order and minutes later the doorbell rings and the wings are here. I smell the very framiliar and comforting smell of honey barbecue sauce which I have grown accustomed too after a few years at UMASS and many late nights out such as this one. It smells similar to a sweetened form of ketchup. My Friends and I open them and all conversations and focus from anything else end as we are all fixated by the food. The strong smell of the sauce fills the room with the slight smell of the few pieces of celery from the box. With the smell of beer and alcohohol still dwindling among us all smelling of wheat and yeast."
Oh yes. It really is that bad.
Jack Rudd:
Quote from: psikfreak on 2009 June 16, 17:13:46
Oh, no. We're still totally a society of capitalistic democracy over here. Our current president just happens to believe in a federally organized and maintained compulsory health care system. That the top 10% should have to pay more in taxes because they have the temerity to earn more that the herd of shepul who pass for your average American these days. Let's not forget part of that process is the federal government determining whom is in said 10%, how much more they should have to pay, and taking it from them to fund 'social programs' to benefit the shepul. No, no, that does not sound at all like 'from each according to his ability, to each according to his needs'.
It sounds like the National Health Service in the United Kingdom. In the recent local and European elections, the party that dominated the United Kingdom was the Conservative party, a mostly socially-conservative, economically right-wing, establishment-supporting party. Despite its right-wing credentials, the Conservative party wouldn't dream of trying to abolish the NHS; that would be seen as electoral suicide over here. Socialism? You guys aren't even close.
(As a side note, I am told that the UK government actually pays less per person on health care than the US government does. Make of that what you will.)
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