Important notice from the GRAMMAR POLICE. Plz read. This means you.
HomeschooledByTards:
My father was a 7th-8th grade teacher for fifteen years. He had a lot of LD students in his classes and he was required to adjust his classes accordingly. He had 30-40 students in each class, he had to challenge the bright kids, make it easy on the LD/Tards, keep the average kids happy, teach toward everyones individual learning style, and couldn't fail anyone. He had to do all of that without modifying his curriculum in any way (easier homework for the LD/Tards, harder work for the bright kids, etc). I honestly don't know how he did it. There is a lot of pressure on teachers to individualize their classes, while treating every child the same.
My brother and I were both diagnosed with Attention Deficit Disorder while we were in college. Instead of encouraging us to learn appropriate coping skills, my parents immediately petitioned my college to "help" my brother. He has always had trouble with standardized tests that required bubbling in the answer on a separate sheet. He would frequently bubble two answers on one line, skip lines, etc. They wanted him to be allowed to have extra time on the exams and have someone to bubble in his answers for him, and possibly take notes for him. ::) They wanted me to be allowed to have extra time on exams as well, but I told them that I didn't need extra time (I was always the first or second student to finish).
The school refused, they claimed that they didn't have any sort of program set up to deal with learning disabilities and they were not going to set one up. My parents were pissed and threatened to sue. I think the only thing that stopped them was lack of money.
Both my brother and I ended up dropping out of school not too long after that. When I went back to school my parents suggested that I go to the Disability Support Services department at my school and get help. I refused, because I don't need help. It's a struggle to stay on task but I have learned how to cope, without medication, and how to be successful in spite of my "disability". My brother, if he does ever go back to school, will probably ask for help because he believes that he needs it.
psikfreak:
Quote from: femsuii on 2009 June 09, 15:40:08
Quote from: psikfreak on 2009 June 06, 07:47:38
Further, today's children are 'horrible' because their parents are to self-absorbed and incompetent to raise a child. Society makes excuses for those children, e.g. they come from underprivileged homes, etc. And finally because people like you wash their hands of them. It's so much easier than tackling a problem that you haven't created but could remedy.
Look again.
* Going back to lurk mode*
Why thank you Captain Obvious for proving the point I made in the very same post. Which, had you read it for the novel concept of 'content' you would have *hopefully* comprehended that part.
I can't speak for other areas of the world, however it has been my experience in our wonderful public education system here in the USA that it is now 'politically incorrect' and 'offensive' to call individuals with mental deficits 'retarded' or 'mentally retarded'. As a result of the pansy-ass hand-holding, heaven-forbid-we-'offend'-anyone-by-stating-the-truth attitude children who are retarded/mentally retarded are referred to as having 'learning delays/disabilities'.
Which is asinine, but may explain a bit of the confusion.
Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but every child grows up to be an adult who is expected to function to the best of their ability in the society which they live. Ignorance, stupidity, and deciding to not remedy either or learn on a conscious/subconscious level not being a sufficient reason for failing to function to the best of their ability. Then isn't taking children with actual learning delays/disabilities out of mainstream learning situations doing them a gross disservice? After they've somehow matriculated into adulthood how are they going to, for instance, gain employment? Take Rohina's padded room and flashing light scenario. What *average* employer is going to create a speshul room for an employee in an average position so that they can learn/function on the job?
Yay for public edumacation. It managed to identify the child's speshulness and adapt to it thereby hindering the child's ability to function in society as an adult!
Quote from: maurie on 2009 June 16, 01:55:14
It's like how Communism/Socialized Medicine/Dirty Mexicans/Neoconservative Jews are somehow taking over America, except that rohina isn't American, so the madness has clearly invaded Australia as well.
Oh, no. We're still totally a society of capitalistic democracy over here. Our current president just happens to believe in a federally organized and maintained compulsory health care system. That the top 10% should have to pay more in taxes because they have the temerity to earn more that the herd of shepul who pass for your average American these days. Let's not forget part of that process is the federal government determining whom is in said 10%, how much more they should have to pay, and taking it from them to fund 'social programs' to benefit the shepul. No, no, that does not sound at all like 'from each according to his ability, to each according to his needs'.
If memory serves, and please correct me here if I'm wrong Rohina, Australia runs on the same schooling system as England. Therefore, when she said 'grade 12 equivalent' she meant first year of university there/fourth year of secondary school in the US.
dramamine:
Quote from: psikfreak on 2009 June 16, 17:13:46
I can't speak for other areas of the world, however it has been my experience in our wonderful public education system here in the USA that it is now 'politically incorrect' and 'offensive' to call individuals with mental deficits 'retarded' or 'mentally retarded'. As a result of the pansy-ass hand-holding, heaven-forbid-we-'offend'-anyone-by-stating-the-truth attitude children who are retarded/mentally retarded are referred to as having 'learning delays/disabilities'.
When I read this, I was reminded about some commercial I saw about an awareness program to stop calling retarded people retarded. It had some goofy acronym for it. If I can find it or remember what it was called, I'll edit this post. It was just amazing when you watched it. It was so politically correct, you wanted to vomit.
rohina:
I don't know why you all assume I am in Australia. I have said several times where I am.
Jelenedra:
Quote from: rohina on 2009 June 16, 19:51:19
I don't know why you all assume I am in Australia. I have said several times where I am.
N00b making an assumption based on what RUFIO wrote. Big surprise there. rufio read that you USED to live in Australia, but only read the "live in Australia" part of the sentence and FAILED to notice the "used to."
Are we surprised?
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