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rohina:
I don't think Ariel has parts.
DrNerd:
Prospero was stuck on that island for YEARS. He HAD to be shagging something.
professorbutters:
Quote from: DrNerd on 2009 June 13, 01:33:24
Is anyone else thinking Prospero/Caliban?
All the speculation I've read has been more along the lines of Prospero/Sycorax, which would make Prospero Caliban's stepfather, or perhaps even his father. This makes Caliban's later attempt to rape his "sister" Miranda extra-squicky, but it's plenty squicky without it. Miranda and Caliban have grown up side by side as though they were brother and sister, and rape of teenaged girls is just . . . no.
I've seen productions where the director tried to create some kind of hot n' heavy stuff with Ariel and Prospero, but I think that's ignoring something basic about Ariel. For me, one of the best lines in the play is when Ariel says that Prospero would feel pity if he could see his former enemies:
Ariel: . . . if you now beheld them, your affections
Would become tender.
Prospero: Dost thou think so, spirit?
Ariel: Mine would, sir, were I human.
That line isn't effective if Ariel is human in any way.
DrNerd:
Wasn't Sycorax dead at the beginning of the play? Prospero had to be there for at least a little while with nothing to bone.
Tad Williams did a nice retelling of The Tempest from Caliban's point of view. The book's called Caliban's Hour and it's pretty hard to find, but it's a quick read.
Zaphod Beeblebrox:
Quote from: DrNerd on 2009 June 13, 01:33:24
To say nothing of the idea that intelligent children can only be born from intelligent parents with college degrees, and that intelligent parents are only capable of raising intelligent offspring. That would come as a great surprise to the blue-collar parents I know with smart kids, and smart parents whose kids have learning disabilities...
Yes, thank you. Both my husband and I could be considered super geniuses (I've been told my number; whoop-dee-fucking-doo), but every one of our children has a learning disability (one more severely than the other two, as well). Also, my oldest brother and I are the "book smart" children, while I have another older brother who is a goddamn idiot. We're all the product of an inbred moronic mother (gah, embarrassing, yet true) and a father whose IQ was tested as 115 back in the '50s but is surely higher than that.
Edumacated parents =/= edumacated children. Thank you, faulty genetics.
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