Important notice from the GRAMMAR POLICE. Plz read. This means you.
kewian:
I may not be a genius or whatever this big mouthed sheep thinks it is but I do know enough that you don't jump into a new forum and make such a total ass out of yourself by being such a braggart.
Annan:
Quote from: soozelwoozel on 2009 June 12, 09:55:13
/.../ with resident experts in Queer theory /.../.
Who did you have there? I'm curious because my degree is partially in gender theory and I had an awesome queer theorist as a professor for some of the courses. I'm wondering if it was someone I would recognize. :)
dstucki:
Quote from: DrNerd on 2009 June 12, 05:00:05
Quote from: lemmiwinks on 2009 June 12, 04:51:49
I may wish to join this "blue-collar elitist" cult. Where might I find more information about it?
Get in your car, drive away from civilization, and look for a bar with peeling paint and a neon Budweiser logo in the front window. There will be rusty pickup trucks outside, and at least one of them will have a dog tied up with baling twine in the bed. There will be guns in the rear window, and probably at least one Confederate flag visible. When you walk in the bar, it will smell like stale smoke, and there will be a spittoon somewhere. The jukebox only plays country music. Everything will be sticky. The bartender is surly, and your beverage choices will be Budweiser, Miller, PBR, Busch, Jim Beam, and Jack Daniel's. When you have found a place that meets these requirements, you will have found the blue-collar elitist cult.
Oh my God. That is truly my vision of hell on earth.
timelycorruption:
I must be oblivious, because I was thinking Mercutio/Benvolio/Romeo when I read the play.
professorbutters:
Quote from: timelycorruption on 2009 June 12, 20:08:42
I must be oblivious, because I was thinking Mercutio/Benvolio/Romeo when I read the play.
Not so sure about Benvolio. For one thing, when Romeo says "I love. . . a woman!" Benvolio says something like, "Well, DUH!" For another, his solution to being dissed by one hot babe is another hot babe. I can't decide if Benvolio is truly a clueless straight boy, or a straight boy who gets it, and I don't know if he understands the Romeo/Mercutio relationship, whatever that is. The only thing that's definite about Benvolio is his desire that everyone Get Along.
There are a lot of characters, like Bassanio in Merchant and Sebastian in Twelfth Night, who definitely seem to be the object of male desire. (Side note: if you are named Antonio and you are in a Shakespeare play, do not bother registering your flatware pattern at Macy's. It ain't gonna happen.) I can't always tell if they are bisexual and can or have returned that affection to some extent; if they are straight and clueless; if they are straight and generally clueful but have not dropped to the fact that their friends are in love with them; or if they are straight, clueful, and simply do not want to know that their friends are in love with them, as it would make things awkward. Sebastian in Twelfth Night, in particular, acts confused--"So. . .why are you giving me your whole wallet?" "You're in danger of arrest here? Why the hell didn't you tell me?" "Gee, I wish I could find good old Tony. He might have some good advice for me about this girl I just met." But I think the text could support any of those readings. What it's nearly impossible to do is ignore the passion on either Antonio's side: "But come what may, I do adore thee so,/That danger shall seem sport, and I will go."
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