The Good, the Bad, and the Randomly @Toaded
daisywenham:
Quote from: tizerist on 2009 May 31, 22:42:28
Definately something up here...
I had one to grow some stuff for another playable sim because, according to the opportunity, she knew nothing about gardening. At the time, she had probably 4 more skill points in gardening than the sim who got the opp.
And the moving wall hangings vertically thing...that was what AL or M&G? It was nice but really it's too recent to expect it to have made base TS3. Look at spiral stair cases. We didn't get them til Makin Magic for TS1 and it took til AL to get them in TS2. I get what people are saying about a new game needing to be better than it's predecessor is NOW but that just isn't EA's M.O.
BastDawn:
Quote from: TashaYarrr on 2009 May 31, 22:55:09
I really have to give TSR credit. An impressive number of people seem to read the following sentence and come away with "EA is helping us".
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Development of the tool started as soon as we returned from our week at EA in January for the Creator Camp.
It's not bad, I guess, assuming the reader has no ability whatsoever to see through textual bullshit.
I keep checking that link every time someone posts a "Why is EA helping TSR!?" message trying to figure what they're seeing that I'm not. If it's not this sentence, WTF is it? Genuinely curious.
No one at TSR has a reputation for making hacks or complex tools. They were not involved with development of SimPE, and people go to TSR for meshes and recolors, not hacks. It's not surprising that some people think they would be incapable of developing a Sim3 tool without a lot of hand holding.
tizerist:
Quote from: daisywenham on 2009 May 31, 23:32:55
AL or M&G?
AL
Quote from: daisywenham on 2009 May 31, 23:32:55
Look at spiral stair cases. We didn't get them til Makin Magic for TS1 and it took til AL to get them in TS2.
Thats one of the things that gets me the most. In TS2, I had normal stairs (recolourable), spiral stairs, ladders, elevators, and even escalators. What a drop that was :P
J. M. Pescado:
Quote from: Inge on 2009 May 30, 14:38:28
Sorry to burst your bubble, but things are done in a particular way that most third party modding tool developers don't necessarily want to spell out. This means that, for me, reading what they posted means something entirely different from what it does for you. I know what they mean and it's not what you think. In fact I would go so far as to say I am about 90% certain they had no special help from EA.
I concur with the Gray Fatness. If TSR had actually received help from EA, or even HAD HALF A BRAIN and an ounce of foresight, they would have actually made real progress. :P
As it stands, their practice of discouraging independent thought and enforcing conformity to arbitrary rules is not an environment which cultivates the existence of hackers. Rules are meant to be bent and twisted to your ends, like the paperclips you use to eject stuck CDs.
Sigmund:
Quote from: daisywenham on 2009 May 31, 23:32:55
And the moving wall hangings vertically thing...that was what AL or M&G? It was nice but really it's too recent to expect it to have made base TS3. Look at spiral stair cases. We didn't get them til Makin Magic for TS1 and it took til AL to get them in TS2.
True, but ceilings were included with this game, and those came from the same expansion pack. I agree that EA wants to limit the base game in order to profit from it later, but think they could have easily included the feature in the base game and still had plenty of others to choose from for later EPs. It's just the same attitude that made them develop the store-- "Hey, let's rip our customers off as much as possible!"
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