TSR Privacy Violation
Kyna:
Quote from: wes_h on 2009 April 01, 22:25:57
Quote from: kutto on 2009 April 01, 20:50:44
If you truly believe that LyricLee downloaded the number of files that she did, from the number of sites that she did, just to look at the contents, then it is you with fingers in your ears. If she had only downloaded her own files, or only a few, your argument may have been plausible. To use your own analogy, this is like finding someone with stolen goods on a daily basis. I might give that person the benefit of the doubt once or twice, but after that I would get suspicious.
That is good enough. I am not going to start counting log events, or attempt to determine if "daily basis" is correct or an exaggeration. I will, however, concede that I was wrong about this being an indefensible characterization. I still think it is useless in an argument about Thomas' behavior, which is where it was cited.
You know, Kutto really didn't say anything that Lorelei hadn't already stated, he merely rephrased what Lorelei had said. When Lorelei says it, you claim it "looks like it was born from animosity", and when Kutto says it, you say "that is good enough".
My spider senses are detecting some animosity here, but it's not from Lorelei.
Lorelei:
Quote from: Kyna on 2009 April 02, 00:53:28
Quote from: wes_h on 2009 April 01, 22:25:57
Quote from: kutto on 2009 April 01, 20:50:44
If you truly believe that LyricLee downloaded the number of files that she did, from the number of sites that she did, just to look at the contents, then it is you with fingers in your ears. If she had only downloaded her own files, or only a few, your argument may have been plausible. To use your own analogy, this is like finding someone with stolen goods on a daily basis. I might give that person the benefit of the doubt once or twice, but after that I would get suspicious.
That is good enough. I am not going to start counting log events, or attempt to determine if "daily basis" is correct or an exaggeration. I will, however, concede that I was wrong about this being an indefensible characterization. I still think it is useless in an argument about Thomas' behavior, which is where it was cited.
You know, Kutto really didn't say anything that Lorelei hadn't already stated, he merely rephrased what Lorelei had said. When Lorelei says it, you claim it "looks like it was born from animosity", and when Kutto says it, you say "that is good enough".
My spider senses are detecting some animosity here, but it's not from Lorelei.
I don't give a crap about LyricLee, beyond being well aware of her nuttiness. Also, the Army of Twelves prodded into attacking Delphy and trying to recruit Pescado (all because LL got caught being an asshat, repeatedly, was removed from her position of pseudopower, and was out for revenge for her hurt butt) was lulz. I think I still have the logs. Medico FTL.
I have no animosity towards LL. I think she's a big LOLcow, that's all.
As for Stupid being inconsistent about accepting the same info from different sources, I believe I have hurt wes_h's little feelings in the past, or something. I probably used logic and/or facts to poke a pin in one of his rants, but I don't remember. He apparently does.
wes_h:
No, Lorelei, you called me stupid right here in this thread.
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You'll notice that I shrugged and stopped arguing with that particular Stupid.
What happened in the past is past. I forget the crap soon enough; I can't even remember the handle of the gal that called me a pseudonym for a penis, which, while I have one is not the center of my existence. My original point was that your argument is weakened when you use weak points in it, but having said it with my usual grace and charm, I ignited an argument over whether the point is or isn't true enough. I agree with most of the sentiment expressed in the thread, which originally revolved around Thomas and the events reported about BuggyBooz's account at MTS2.
So feel free to call some more names if you wish. I intent to give up on the issue with this post.
cwykes:
Quote from: cascaneda on 2009 April 02, 00:37:43
I am just wondering : All of you have an account at TSR ?
Why ?
TSR hosts all my lots for me free of charge and people can find them to download. From a very narrow perspective, that works well for me; it's much less effort than running my own website and dealing with downloaders &/or hackers. They aren't charging me or anyone who downloads my lots. I downloaded a lot of stuff from TSR free when I played Sims1 and also when I only had base game for Sims2. I didn't feel guilty about wasting their bandwith; actually I didn't know what bandwidth was back then. So when I had some lots I quite liked, I put them there - seemed like a fair exchange. They're there forever now. I like the challenges and challenge wizard too. If I was starting over with my rather higher knowledge level, I still want someone else to host them.
I guess I'm one of those people who always sees grey instead of black and white. TSR provide a web hosting service and you could argue that they are charging for that as much as the downloads. The amount - well that's a different story.
btw I'm on holiday now for a couple of weeks
Marhis:
I have an account on TSR because in my early and naive days of TS2 it was one of the first fansites I stumbled upon, and I even had a pay subscription over there.
I have an account on TSR now, because I can't delete it. It's like catholic baptism: once you've got one, you can't resign nor change your mind, forever and ever.
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