My first playing experience with Nightlife - AND Error Log :P
RainbowTigress:
Quote from: Motoki on 2005 November 15, 02:33:40
Did you install the patch for NL? I *think* it fixes stealing a bite of food so that it doesn't count as a romantic interaction. I know it definitely does fix it so that 'ask' doesn't count as romantic and also buying another sim coffee.
Oh good, I wasn't sure they had fixed that or not.
Ancient Sim:
A crossed out lightning bolt means exactly what you surmised, that one Sim fancies the other but it's not reciprocated. You need to find out which way round it is by seeing which one gets the pink hearts and which pulls the face, then if you want to sort it out you'll need to investigate possibilities. For instance, one Sim could be attracted to the other's star-sign, but they may be repelled by theirs - not much you can do about that unless you change them. Alternatively, the repelled Sim may have an aversion to something the other Sim possesses, such as red hair or glasses. These can be easily remedied in a mirror. It's worth a try, because I've had them go from crossed-out bolts to 3 bolts just by something simple like the afore-mentioned trip to a mirror.
baratron:
Quote from: syberspunk on 2005 November 15, 00:31:24
As for Matthew Hart being Sarah Love's boyfriend? Well, how was I supposed to know that?!?!? ;D We seemed to hit it off, and he seems to be very open to my advances. In fact, he rolled up several Woohoo wants with me on our dream dates, so I went for it. Lol! And since I've been sort of playing this as a legacy challenge, and I never use any mind-controlling hacks, I didn't know who or what his relationships were. Haha. How funny that his "girlfriend" was the "contact" that "heard" how much we had a good time, and she wanted to hang out and whatever. I guess Matthew didn't exactly fill Sarah in on all the details of exactly just what kind of fun we had. :P It just figures though, that my sim would be interested in a "closeted" bi-dude. Kinda scary how the game tends to reflect real life sometimes. ::)
Ahahahaahaaa! Sorry, just amused.
Yeah, all Uni students start out as VERY bi. While all sims start out as bi anyway, Maxis made Young Adults even more strongly that way to reflect the fact that when people go to college, they tend to be more "open to new things". You can persuade any dormie or professor to have an affair with any sim, regardless of gender.
As far as I can remember, Matthew & Sarah are the only premade romantic relationship in that Uni - but quite a few of the other girls in the Sorority house have a crush on him, so you have to be careful of that, too. "Strangely", none of them have crushes on the other Fraternity guys - I can't think why not. My Guy Wrightley is ok - he's hooked up with Gunnar from the Shifting Paradymes, but I have no idea what to do with the third Frat guy, Mickey (is it?) - the slovenly couch potato who when you start the game is on Academic Probation. Not really playing Pleasantview & that uni at the moment, so I'm not worried about it :).
syberspunk:
Quote from: Motoki on 2005 November 15, 02:33:40
Did you install the patch for NL? I *think* it fixes stealing a bite of food so that it doesn't count as a romantic interaction. I know it definitely does fix it so that 'ask' doesn't count as romantic and also buying another sim coffee.
I'm fairly certain that I patched my game. I do have the patch downloaded on my machine, and I thought I patched before I started putting downloads in and what not. But I could have easily been confused, because I also patched my sister's game for her, and I might have thought I patched my game too. lol. Is there any way to check to be certain, or do I have to try and run the patch again?
Quote from: Ancient Sim on 2005 November 15, 03:33:27
A crossed out lightning bolt means exactly what you surmised, that one Sim fancies the other but it's not reciprocated. You need to find out which way round it is by seeing which one gets the pink hearts and which pulls the face, then if you want to sort it out you'll need to investigate possibilities. For instance, one Sim could be attracted to the other's star-sign, but they may be repelled by theirs - not much you can do about that unless you change them. Alternatively, the repelled Sim may have an aversion to something the other Sim possesses, such as red hair or glasses. These can be easily remedied in a mirror. It's worth a try, because I've had them go from crossed-out bolts to 3 bolts just by something simple like the afore-mentioned trip to a mirror.
Yeah... that's what I thought. Well... I built up that friendship and I don't remember what I did exactly. It was pretty much at friends, with close to 80 or 90 STR, and I can't remember what interaction I used, but now the chemistry is up to two lightning bolts, which is better than what I have with Matthew (only one lightning bolt). Regardless, the dormie is one of the fugmo looking ones, his name is Albert Cobb in my game. I don't know if that is a standard Maxian name, or if it was generated by Jordi's (I think?) better names hack. I think it was because of the better names hack, because I vaguely recall having the same sim in my game before, but I thought he had a different name. I never quite understood how townies/dormies/etc. got named. I thought they were all supposed to be random, but from reading stuff online, it seems like everyone has a Sophie Miguel, Chandler Platz, Christy Stratton, etc.
I presume then that each neighborhood comes with a preset number of already generated townies. And the randomness only happens when a "new" townie or dormie is generated. I don't know what conditions would call for "new" townies to be generated, but my guess is for Uni, that "new" dormies are generated when you need to "fill" up the dorm rooms.
Quote from: baratron on 2005 November 15, 04:10:41
Ahahahaahaaa! Sorry, just amused.
Yeah, all Uni students start out as VERY bi. While all sims start out as bi anyway, Maxis made Young Adults even more strongly that way to reflect the fact that when people go to college, they tend to be more "open to new things". You can persuade any dormie or professor to have an affair with any sim, regardless of gender.
As far as I can remember, Matthew & Sarah are the only premade romantic relationship in that Uni - but quite a few of the other girls in the Sorority house have a crush on him, so you have to be careful of that, too. "Strangely", none of them have crushes on the other Fraternity guys - I can't think why not. My Guy Wrightley is ok - he's hooked up with Gunnar from the Shifting Paradymes, but I have no idea what to do with the third Frat guy, Mickey (is it?) - the slovenly couch potato who when you start the game is on Academic Probation. Not really playing Pleasantview & that uni at the moment, so I'm not worried about it :).
Hehe ;D Yeah, I figured so, but still it's quite funny. That's why we really need the romancemod. I mean, sure sims/people might be a bit more "open to new things" as you say, especially in college, but what about those who are actually loyal and faithful to their spouses, despite their "curiousity" or bisexuality. :P Just because you're bi doesn't necessarily mean that you'll be a slutty cheater. Hehe. Well... I did take out the norandomflirtwants from this "legacy challenge" game just to keep things a bit interesting. But, that should only affect random flirty wants from rolling up, if I understand correctly. It wouldn't prevent sims from accepting advances (or cause sims to reject advances) if they were in some form of committed relationship. I believe the romancemod was responsible for that. Anyhew, it would be more of a challenge to seduce and "turn" a sim over. At least make it a bit harder! Hehe :D
And as I posted in my other thread, I am guessing then that Matthew Hart and Sarah Love are in some kind of committed relationship since my sims were caught cheating. How the dormie knew, I don't know. Do random strangers catch you cheating if they don't know either sim that well? I mean, is it sufficient for a sim to just meet another sim, and they immediately know that they are in an existing relationship. Then... if they ever see the other sim cheating, they get those cheaty memories? Even if they are not friends with them? If that's the case, that is totally unrealistic, and yet another reason we need the romancemod.
Unless, the only other thing I can think of is that Albert Cobb either had conversations with Matthew Hart or Sarah Love or someone else who knows of their relationship, and Albert must have a memory or invisible memory of their relationship? I guess I'll check the memories before I head to bed so I can figure out what the heck is going on. :P
And as for the other sims, I haven't played the game much. I'm a very slow player, and plus, I hardly never play those pre-made Maxis houses. So I really have no clue who is who. And I actually mostly played Pleasantville. I used Strangetown for my challenge just because I wanted a different environment for the base 'hood. But I hardly never played my challenge because I couldn't stand to not have all my great hacks. That's why I chucked my old game, restarted fresh and new, with a lot more hacks in it this time around. :P
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RainbowTigress:
Quote from: syberspunk on 2005 November 15, 07:33:07
And as I posted in my other thread, I am guessing then that Matthew Hart and Sarah Love are in some kind of committed relationship since my sims were caught cheating. How the dormie knew, I don't know. Do random strangers catch you cheating if they don't know either sim that well? I mean, is it sufficient for a sim to just meet another sim, and they immediately know that they are in an existing relationship. Then... if they ever see the other sim cheating, they get those cheaty memories? Even if they are not friends with them? If that's the case, that is totally unrealistic, and yet another reason we need the romancemod.
Unless, the only other thing I can think of is that Albert Cobb either had conversations with Matthew Hart or Sarah Love or someone else who knows of their relationship, and Albert must have a memory or invisible memory of their relationship? I guess I'll check the memories before I head to bed so I can figure out what the heck is going on. :P
The way Maxis designed it, a sim does not have to be "committed" to get caught cheating, they just have to be in love. It's kind if silly though, to me, because just because you are in love doesn't mean you are committed to that person. Especially when they fall in love on one date, then they have a date with another sim, the first sim gets mad when they "catch" them on a date with another sim! We need a mod for this badly.
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