you should meet my therapist
Jelenedra:
Newly developed peeve of mine:
People that say "That's funny" instead of laughing.
I was trapped in a car with one of these people for a straight 24 hours. I welcomed the sweet release of this person falling asleep.
funkilla:
Quote from: Liz on 2008 November 20, 19:25:33
Quote from: SnootCB on 2008 November 19, 20:50:28
Actually, I thought about it a bit more, and it is technically correct in most cases to answer both positive and negative versions of a yes/no question in the same way. So "does Pescado like Emma?" and "doesn't Pescado like Emma?" would have the same yes/no answer. I don't know if this is the case with a "do you mind if ___ ?" type question, though. Anyone of you more grammar-oriented people know which is the better answer in this case? I hope this isn't too off-topic.
Too off-topic? Dude, there's always room for Jell-o grammar!
Despite common (mis-)usage, "Does A like B?" is not linguistically the same question as "Doesn't A like B?". The second question is asking, "Is it not true that A likes B?" So you would answer that, yes, it is not true, or that, no, it's true. This seems bass-ackwards, but it's answering the question as it was asked.
Assuming A likes B:
Does A like B? Yes, he does.
Doesn't A like B? No, he does.
Doesn't 'shoe' rhyme with 'paper'? Yes, it does not rhyme. Doesn't a hat go on the head? No, it does go on the head.
These grammatical constructs are largely ignored, however, so most people will take "Doesn't it?" to mean, "It does, right?" and answer the question affirmatively. Similarly, people will frequently answer "Do you mind?" incorrectly. While its intent is the same as asking, "Is it okay with you?", the question itself is not the same. For this reason, when someone asks me, "Isn't he going?" I'll probably answer, "He's going," instead of just saying Yes or No so that everybody's clear. I opt for clarity over succinctness.
Regarding the dialog above, as witch indicated, the question being asked isn't whether it's okay; it's asking whether you mind. These questions should receive different answers.
Is it okay? Yes.
Do you mind? No.
If answering 'Yes' means they give out your number, the game has it wrong. 'Yes' means you do mind; you would prefer they NOT hand over your number. So as you mentioned, it's a 'Yes' that means 'No'. This is one of the reasons I'm coming to appreciate the linguistic simplicity of Cantonese. Yes/No questions are asked as multiple choice. Answer by circling the correct one. "You want/not want go?" "Not want."
Quote from: jolrei on 2008 November 20, 17:38:22
Yes, they probably "could care less". :P
GAAAAAAAAAHHH! *runs, screaming, into the night*
It's grammar like this that makes my head spin because English isn't my first language. But I like to think I speak and understand it fairly well.
I had the Therapist one a lot. Didn't have Santa Klaus or Toddler New Year. I usually accept though. And I get these two girls in the pink dresses with the big red/pink pendent necklaces always trying to hook me up with their friends, and the blind date literally falls out of the sky.
What was weird though is that I had a Social Bunny come to my Sim while they were asleep. He juggled, and the Sim's social meter went up, even though he was asleep.
J. M. Pescado:
Quote from: Jelenedra on 2008 November 20, 20:37:31
I was trapped in a car with one of these people for a straight 24 hours. I welcomed the sweet release of this person falling asleep.
What exactly were you doing to be stuck in the car with this person? Were you stuck buried in the snow or something?
Jelenedra:
Road trip to Colorado for one of Mr. Vulture's shows. :-X
I drove most of the way back home just so this person would SLEEP and not talk to me.
PirateFaafy:
Quote from: SnootCB on 2008 November 19, 20:50:28
According to the Prima Guide (so take this with a grain of salt):
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Three hours after the introduction (or three hours after your sim returns home from the Community lot), a new unknown townie sim calls to introduce him- or herself. Initial relationship will be higher than usual.
I'm pretty sure "yes" in this case means, "yes, please introduce me to this new sim" rather than "yes, I do mind, so go away" which would be more grammatically correct. Sometimes I wish English had a negative yes/positive no word like some other languages, but even if we did EA would probably screw that up too.
Edit:
Actually, I thought about it a bit more, and it is technically correct in most cases to answer both positive and negative versions of a yes/no question in the same way. So "does Pescado like Emma?" and "doesn't Pescado like Emma?" would have the same yes/no answer. I don't know if this is the case with a "do you mind if ___ ?" type question, though. Anyone of you more grammar-oriented people know which is the better answer in this case? I hope this isn't too off-topic.
Actually, I recall believing that EAxis had been dumb and simply worded it improperly, so I answered it with the opposite of my intent with regards to grammar. I believe I ended up being wrong - as in, EAxis actually got it right, which was unexpected. Especially given the relative 12ness of the userbase.
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