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Is my Strangetown strange?
« on: 2008 October 23, 04:11:13 »
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Ok, so I've never played Strangetown before...  I did a reinstall recently, and decided to try making my own mega neighborhood using the empty/cleaned up templates, and with pleasantview as the main neighborhood, and strangetown, veronaville, and riverblossom hills added as downtowns.  The pleasantview I used was completely empty, but the others were cleaned/fixed with all of the maxis playables still there.  Anyway, over in Strangetown I was playing the house with the Curious boys, and Pascal Curious had his baby, and the birth had all of the weird alien animations and everything, but the baby looked like a normal human baby...  Is this weird?  Should the baby always be an alien, or is there a chance that it will be a human?  Also, I just checked the baby's family tree and he has a mom listed, someone named "danielle greaves", who also does not look like an alien.  Just a totally normal looking girl that I don't think I've ever seen before in the game.  Whatup wit dat?     
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Re: Is my Strangetown strange?
« Reply #1 on: 2008 October 23, 05:05:06 »
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Yeah, it would be cool if divergent skin tones would morph together on babies instead of the lame and unrealistic A or B system. EAxis will spend ridiculous amounts of time on content nobody wants(How many sims have you played that wear a deep-sea diving helmet ?) and totally ignore opportunities for innovative creativity...

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Re: Is my Strangetown strange?
« Reply #2 on: 2008 October 23, 05:13:53 »
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Anyway, over in Strangetown I was playing the house with the Curious boys, and Pascal Curious had his baby, and the birth had all of the weird alien animations and everything, but the baby looked like a normal human baby...  Is this weird?  Should the baby always be an alien, or is there a chance that it will be a human?  Also, I just checked the baby's family tree and he has a mom listed, someone named "danielle greaves", who also does not look like an alien.  Just a totally normal looking girl that I don't think I've ever seen before in the game.  Whatup wit dat?
Trying "megamerge hoods" results in invalid pregnancy tokens. The "father" NID will be the same as in the old neighborhood, but that NID may correspond to an entirely different sim, or no sim at all, in your "new" neighborhood. This is the source of the Ottomas borkedness and why Pascal becomes corrupt if moved before he spawns. Don't do it!

Yeah, it would be cool if divergent skin tones would morph together on babies instead of the lame and unrealistic A or B system.
And it would have been easy to do, too, to just alpha-blend the two skintones together in arbitrary proportion, resulting in ANYthing, between A or B, even if it does not correspond to A or B.
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« Reply #3 on: 2008 October 23, 06:00:58 »
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Aaah!  I was not aware of this...  What should I do with the corrupt Pascal and his baby?  And does this mean his baby mama is hanging out in my neighborhood somewhere?
ETA:  Nevermind, just checked SimPE and she's dead...  she has no relations or memories except the "I am dead" and "had baby" memories...  so I'm guessing the game created her to fill the unknown parent role when the baby was born?    

Also, is there a way to avoid this corruption/borkedness when making a merged neighborhood?  I followed the tutorial and used the empty/cleaned-up templates posted over in the Peasantry and everything seemed to go swimmingly until this...  are there extra steps you have to take to fix Pascal and the Ottomans when using the templates that have the maxis playables in them?  Or do you just have to avoid playing those two families in a merged hood? 
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« Reply #4 on: 2008 October 23, 10:30:38 »
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ETA:  Nevermind, just checked SimPE and she's dead...  she has no relations or memories except the "I am dead" and "had baby" memories...  so I'm guessing the game created her to fill the unknown parent role when the baby was born?     

I believe Danielle Greaves is one of the ghosts on the Specter lot.  Her character file (like most of the ghosts there) is incomplete, so I wouldn't try to resurrect her.
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« Reply #5 on: 2008 October 23, 10:44:34 »
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Aaah!  I was not aware of this...  What should I do with the corrupt Pascal and his baby?
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Re: Is my Strangetown strange?
« Reply #6 on: 2008 October 23, 22:29:57 »
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...but the baby looked like a normal human baby...  Is this weird?  Should the baby always be an alien, or is there a chance that it will be a human?
i believe the way it works is that since the aliens are homozygous their coloring will be dominant no matter what unless the skin is an ungenetisized(sp?) custom one. you should look into this thread http://www.moreawesomethanyou.com/smf/index.php/topic,1423.0.html that will explain the weirdness involved with strangetown premade characters. this also leads to babies not having the right skintones.

Also, I just checked the baby's family tree and he has a mom listed, someone named "danielle greaves", who also does not look like an alien.  Just a totally normal looking girl that I don't think I've ever seen before in the game.
technically, pascal would be the "mom" in that tree. also,kyna is correct. danielle is a pizza delivery driver planted in olives' garden.

on a similar topic. is it a bad thing to back up his pregnancy to before the first bump? i did that, aborted and then reimpregnated him in order to utilize my pt replacement.
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« Reply #7 on: 2008 October 24, 02:37:28 »
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Before the Ottoman's were fixed, I would make her not pregnant by InSIM and then I would make her pregnant again and advance the preganany to second trimester.  Couldn't you do the same thing with Pascal and choose Alien pregnancy.  I have found a lot of problems with empty templates, but with the right tools I have been able to fix all of them so far.  The hood is so big that I don't think my computer could take much more than a few generations anyways. 
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Re: Is my Strangetown strange?
« Reply #8 on: 2008 October 24, 04:30:20 »
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i don't use insim though. looking at its instructions makes me go cross eyed. i was just wondering because that's what i had done in lieu of using inteen* after installing al. i just can't stand that kid if it has no nose.


*before i get "the picture" for that, i do not kill kittens. i save it for my young adults. not much better, but they're of consenting age.
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Re: Is my Strangetown strange?
« Reply #9 on: 2008 October 24, 05:29:43 »
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I don't use Insim either... I actually don't know much about it.  For some reason I have it in my head that Insim is bad news, but I think that's actually Inteen...  something about killing kittens and tight pants?  ha.

I don't suppose there's anyway I could save Pascal and his baby at this point...?  Through some SimPE magic perhaps?  Or are they pretty much destined for deletion?  I don't particularly care for the baby with the ghost for a mother, but I'd rather not delete Pascal if I didn't have to. 
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Re: Is my Strangetown strange?
« Reply #10 on: 2008 October 25, 16:50:01 »
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maybe you could just deleted2 the baby and try again. after wiping the corrupted memories from the smith and curious families, wouldn't it be like the sim had never been born? i suppose you could do it with sim surgery, but i'm not sure what all that would entail with this particular situation.
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Re: Is my Strangetown strange?
« Reply #11 on: 2008 October 25, 17:33:16 »
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Hold on... deleting a sim who has family bindings wasn't a bad thing?
Is it correct deleting first family ties in SimPE and only then perform the bogaloo?
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Re: Is my Strangetown strange?
« Reply #12 on: 2008 October 26, 13:36:26 »
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Current version of Lot Debugger automatically purges those for you, so you can Boogaloo them just like anyone else.
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