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Apartment Hack: Now For Non-Fat Gwilly People!
« on: 2008 October 22, 14:19:52 »
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Now for more than just the Fat and Gwilly! Replaces "noundeaddormies".


apthack.zip

Apartment Hack for TS2AL+
Made by: Flying Fish Systems (J. M. Pescado)

Congratulations to: Draklixa!
Death to all Nesses!

Special Thanks To:
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INSTRUCTIONS:
Place in your MYDOCU~1\EAGAME~1\THESIM~1\DOWNLO~1 directory.

FEATURES:
1. Neighbor behavior in apartments now depends on furniture installed inside
   their apartments and common area: Motives restored on going into apartments
   depends on what furniture that the neighbors have in there, and neighbors
   leaving their apartment will do so to resolve motives based on things
   located in the common area.
2. Neighbors will not suddenly run off for no reason while you are trying to
   interact with them.
3. Neighbors will not emerge and stand around for hours with nothing to do.
4. Rent-payer hour moved to hour that is non-suicidal for vampire tenants.
5. Cash exploit for fixtures removed: You can no longer receive free cash
   merely for moving into an apartment and then moving out because you are not
   charged for the value of fixtures, but are still credited for them on move
   out: Sims must pay an initial deposit equal to the sell value of fixtures
   in their apartment, which is returned via the normal move-out process.
6. Option to rent furnished integrated with above: Door will display two
   rental prices, the higher deposit value being the furnished price.
7. Going to work/on errands no longer magically restores neighbors. Work motive
   drain is equivalent to the normal drain for their particular job and level.
   Errands will still restore typical motives, much like your own sims can go
   and green on community lots (Gain Hunger/Soc/Fun/etc., energy not so much).
8. Apartments made functional in universities: YAs can now rent apartments and
   generated NPC apartment neighbors will spawn as YAs and go to class.
9. Fixed bug where sims were going home into the wrong apartments.
A. Landlord will not host gathering if pizza person does not exist (no spam!),
   or if swarm of resulting Zergs exceeds legal visitor max (major lag!).

COMPATIBILITY:
This hack is fully compatible with all FFS hacks. For TS2AL+.

SIDE EFFECTS:
May cause computer damage, incontinence, explosion of user's head, coma, death,
and/or halitosis.

WARNING:
Do not open, crush, dispose of in fire, put in backwards, short-circuit, or mix
with non-awesome hacks - may explode, leak, or catch fire, resulting in injury
and/or death.
« Last Edit: 2008 October 26, 13:03:16 by J. M. Pescado » Logged

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Re: Apartment Hack: Now For Non-Fat Gwilly People!
« Reply #1 on: 2008 October 22, 15:27:16 »
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This is excellent, especially for number eight.  Does anything have to be placed in the apartments, such as the paintings for the Ingelogical version of this hack?
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« Reply #2 on: 2008 October 22, 16:03:21 »
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Ohh, new shiny!

Does this hack affect roommates in any way?


Edit: Thanks for the reply - this hack is truly awesome! 
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« Reply #3 on: 2008 October 22, 16:16:09 »
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This is excellent, especially for number eight.  Does anything have to be placed in the apartments, such as the paintings for the Ingelogical version of this hack?
No. Rather than indicating what motives are present in apartments and in the common area, you place the actual motives. It prevents user error and allows the apartments to behave individually rather than globally. So if you want ONE particular sim to NOT COME OUT, you can furnish his apartment with all the things necessary to satisfy everything and thus prevent emergence, while if you want others to be more sociable, place those items in the common area instead.

Ohh, new shiny!

Does this hack affect roommates in any way?
Behavior of roommates has not been extensively examined but some improvements have been incorporated, such as errands no longer refilling every single motive perfectly, causing roommates to react slightly more normally.
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« Reply #4 on: 2008 October 22, 16:36:42 »
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Ooooh!  Shiny!   Cheesy

If a Sim rents the apartment in it's furnished state, am I correct in presuming only the initial rent payment is modified, and all subsequent rent payments are at the standard unfurnished rate?
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« Reply #5 on: 2008 October 22, 19:09:16 »
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If a Sim rents the apartment in it's furnished state, am I correct in presuming only the initial rent payment is modified, and all subsequent rent payments are at the standard unfurnished rate?
That is what is indicated when you rent on the menu, yes, "Rent Apartment $X + $Y/wk. X must be paid upfront as your security deposit, and you get it back automatically on move-out as part of the usual "autosell all stuff". Rent is per-week and not dependent on any items. You will therefore see two rental prices given when you try to rent. It should be obvious which is which!
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« Reply #6 on: 2008 October 22, 21:23:23 »
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Will this make landlords any less stupid?  I can't stand the pizza parties of fail, and the landlord randomly getting stuck in apartments.  If he can't be lobotomised, I'd rather stomp the parties entirely.
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« Reply #7 on: 2008 October 22, 22:09:13 »
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Will this make landlords any less stupid?  I can't stand the pizza parties of fail, and the landlord randomly getting stuck in apartments.  If he can't be lobotomised, I'd rather stomp the parties entirely.

Nothing kills a date like bring her home to the hottub and finding the landlord already there...naked.
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« Reply #8 on: 2008 October 23, 01:27:34 »
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How does this affect townie-occupied apartments?  Are they assumed to have everything they need in the apartment, only certain things they need, or are they assumed to have rented the apartment furnished with whatever you put in there when you built it?
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« Reply #9 on: 2008 October 23, 03:15:24 »
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Townie apartments are treated as having whatever you had when you built the place. So you should install the basic fixtures needed to satisfy any motive you wish to satisfy in there.
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« Reply #10 on: 2008 October 23, 09:26:04 »
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I just installed this hack. My sims live in an apartment. They caught a taxi to their owned business in the same hood. A few hours after their arrival, a landlord appeared and asked if they'd like to choose an apartment. There are no apartment doors on the lot. It is not their regular landlord. I can't make him bugger off, BRY does not appear to see him. I have been playing this lot over several evenings and it has been fine to date.
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« Reply #11 on: 2008 October 23, 09:37:18 »
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I strongly suspect this is an unrelated coincidence. More likely the game randomly sent a Landlord NPC to your lot as a visitor, where he is misbehaving. Banish him by deletion if he won't go away. This is an unrelated issue.
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« Reply #12 on: 2008 October 23, 14:00:47 »
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I just installed this hack. My sims live in an apartment. They caught a taxi to their owned business in the same hood. A few hours after their arrival, a landlord appeared and asked if they'd like to choose an apartment. There are no apartment doors on the lot. It is not their regular landlord. I can't make him bugger off, BRY does not appear to see him. I have been playing this lot over several evenings and it has been fine to date.

I had the same happen before Apartment Hack was made but only on residential lots. Removing the Landlord fixed this.
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« Reply #13 on: 2008 October 23, 22:10:54 »
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I tried checking out no.8 - so far unsuccessful since game crashed when I tried turning a residential lot into an apartment in an uni hood. What am I missing?
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« Reply #14 on: 2008 October 23, 22:37:37 »
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Perhaps you need to plop down premade apartments?
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« Reply #15 on: 2008 October 23, 22:43:31 »
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It is working fine in my game, so something is probably wrong with your process. Elaborate on when it crashes?
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« Reply #16 on: 2008 October 23, 23:01:34 »
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mitchellcjs, I can has no premade apartments in uni hood. They don't show.

Pes, I edited residential lot, entered cheat code (changelotzoning apartmentbase) and then pressed load hood. Game crashes.
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« Reply #17 on: 2008 October 23, 23:47:44 »
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Pescado I have these two conflicts showing. Should I remove them so I can use your new shiny?

*** POSSIBLE CONFLICT DETECTED ***
File Type: BHAV
Procedure Name: Sub - Find a Homeless nID in Temp 0
Group ID: 0x7F175BF9
Instance ID: 0x0000100B
Packages Containing This Procedure:
\downloads\J. M. P\apthack.package
\downloads\Two Jeffs\Dormie Gender Controller.package
 
*** POSSIBLE CONFLICT DETECTED ***
File Type: BHAV
Procedure Name: Sub - Process
Group ID: 0x7F17E3A4
Instance ID: 0x00002002
Packages Containing This Procedure:
\downloads\J. M. P\apthack.package
\downloads\Two Jeffs\No Finals at Night.package
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« Reply #18 on: 2008 October 24, 00:03:01 »
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If you keep those, the apartments-at-uni functionality will be broken, so up to you.
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« Reply #19 on: 2008 October 24, 00:19:04 »
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twojeffs lost his 'awesome' status, didn't he?
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« Reply #20 on: 2008 October 24, 07:44:29 »
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So, can we get an Awesome version of No Finals At Night, then?  I consider that hack a bug fix.
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« Reply #21 on: 2008 October 25, 04:25:57 »
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Is there any chance of depreciating all the items in an apartment prior  to calculating deposit?  I had a CAS Sim who couldn't move into a relatively cheap furnished apartment because the deposit was over 25K.

If  this is already being done, feel free to point and laugh.

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« Reply #22 on: 2008 October 25, 04:31:24 »
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Is there any chance of depreciating all the items in an apartment prior  to calculating deposit?  I had a CAS Sim who couldn't move into a relatively cheap furnished apartment because the deposit was over 25K.
Magic Wand? Try wanding your apartment prior to anyone moving in. If it was 25K, it wasn't THAT cheap. And you would have earned an instant 25K just for moving in without this.

So, can we get an Awesome version of No Finals At Night, then?  I consider that hack a bug fix.
But I *LIKE* finals at night. Finals during the day BURNS!
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« Reply #23 on: 2008 October 25, 16:15:48 »
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Maybe an Awesome version that automagically schedule Dark sims' finals to take place at night and non-Dark sims take their finals during the say?
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« Reply #24 on: 2008 October 25, 17:36:32 »
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Maybe an Awesome version that automagically schedule Dark sims' finals to take place at night and non-Dark sims take their finals during the say?

This indeed would be awesome. Want.
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