Any ideas on how to deal with the Grox?
LunaJupi:
Quote from: J. M. Pescado on 2008 October 10, 14:26:09
Quote from: LunaJupi on 2008 October 10, 04:31:52
But that's too expensive and will make everyone else hate me. Even that "Planetbusters don't cause hate" mod doesn't work for me for some reason. If I make the planets T3, can the Grox bring them back down to T0 or not? If they can't, that's just as effective as blowing up the planet.
Only those within 10pc will witness the act and hate you. Since you are all the way in a distant arm of the galaxy, and the only people who will witness the atrocity are the Grox, because you are kinda DEMOLISHING THE BOWELS OF GROX SPACE, no one will care!
As for expensive...you are amassing a coalition of 6-25 of your own races in a massive effort to eliminate an empire of some 2.4K planets from the galaxy. No matter WHAT you do, it's going to be expensive! Either it will cost you a fortune in cash, a fortune in time, or, most likely, BOTH! Get used to it!
True, true. And I wasn't aware of the 10pc thing, that's helpful. I think I'll just go with getting all their planets to T3 though, then they'll actually be inhabitable for my allies, who can work to get rid of the Grox WITH me. Or at least slow them down when they're trying to get to my colonies.
Arnina:
Quote from: Dopp on 2008 October 10, 14:34:21
I haven't actually met the Grox yet, but I am wondering if I should. If the 'normal' path to the galactic core involves fighting one's way through Grox space, and if the Grox can mount retaliatory attacks on your homeworlds halfway across the galaxy, and if the typical Grox attack is powerful enough to destroy the most heavily defended colony, and if you can't make peace with the Grox afterwards, and if all you get afterwards is a lousy staff with 42 charges, then what's the point? You'll be fighting off Grox attacks forever and you can't even 'sort of' ignore them like you can with pirates. It sounds like attempting to follow the game's tutorials (specifically the 'explore galactic core' one) condemns your race to eventual extinction at the hands of the Grox.
You don't have to fight your way through. Before you head off to Grox space, load up on mega energy and health packs. You will need these to stay alive. When you get to Grox space the Grox will fire on you. Turn-off your auto turrets so you don't accidently fire back and start a war. Also, ditch any ally ships you have so they don't fire on the Grox. Then, hop from star system to star system until you reach the galatic core. I tried this with one of my races and the Grox did not attack any of my colonies because I avoided starting a war.
Dopp:
Wow, didn't know that. I destroy everything I meet as a matter of course. The fact that the Grox are officially more awesome than me (by being basically invincible) is a bit stupid. If the Grox can have 2,400 planets, I want a REAL galactic armada, some REAL planetary defenses, a REAL spice harvesting system, and a REALLY BIG ship to take them on with.
jsalemi:
Good hints (in retrospect :)), Arnina. I'll have to remember to do that when my next space race is ready for the run to the core. Unfortunately, my first (stronger) race is going to have to fight their way through.
EsotericPolarBear:
Quote from: Arnina on 2008 October 11, 01:14:28
You don't have to fight your way through. Before you head off to Grox space, load up on mega energy and health packs. You will need these to stay alive. When you get to Grox space the Grox will fire on you. Turn-off your auto turrets so you don't accidently fire back and start a war. Also, ditch any ally ships you have so they don't fire on the Grox. Then, hop from star system to star system until you reach the galatic core. I tried this with one of my races and the Grox did not attack any of my colonies because I avoided starting a war.
I was at war with the Grox when I made the core run. I just took a colony pack with me and stopped at every empty system along the way to drop a colony and heal/recharge, buy another colony and move on my way.
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