Any ideas on how to deal with the Grox?
Arnina:
I made the mistake of pissing off the Grox early in the space stage and, now, have to deal with repeated attacks on my colonies and home world. My region of space was peaceful until I decided to explore and made my way towards the galactic center. I had battled the Grox a few times while defending allies but had never had any of my worlds attacked, yet. Apparently, I was already on the Grox shit list for destroying their space ships during these previous battles. I made matters worse by not turning off my watchamacallit, the thing that shoots enemies in space, and destroyed more Grox ships. I made contact with the Grox but there were no options to remedy the situation as the relationship was already too damaged. So, I said screw the Grox and decided to try to make it to the galactic center by hopping from star system to star system while using energy and health packs along the way. I failed as my range was too limited to reach the core with interstellar drive 4 and as I ran out of health packs. Returning to my system in shame, I soon found that I made a big mistake by engaging the Grox. My home world and colonies were repeatedly attacked and I found myself constantly responding to the attacks and rebuilding damaged colonies. This is becoming a big annoyance as I can't explore the galaxy for fear of my spice colonies being destroyed.
I don't really care about the attacks on my home world for two reasons: The home world will never be completely destroyed as it respawns and the home world isn't a good source of spice. I prefer the Grox to attack my home world as I can ignore the attack and attend to business elsewhere. Colonies are a different story. I'm always successful in fighting off the Grox with just my ship and the uber turret. I don't bring allied ships as they are usually destroyed and I don't want the penalty with their species for not taking care of their ships. I'm tired of these attacks; they are a distraction from other fun aspects of the game and replacing the colony structures is becoming expensive and time consuming.
So, where do I go from here? I only see a few options but none of them appear feasible for my current game. I could try to take on the time-consuming task of destroying the Grox empire but their empire is huge. It surrounds the entire galactic core. I can't think of an efficient way to take on their empire by my lonesome. I tried and failed to get some help by making alliances with empires close to the Grox empire and asking them to attack someone for me. Each empire refused to attack the Grox.
The other option is to ally with the Grox in future games. In my current game, the relationship is too low to ever ally with the Grox. However, even this solution has problems as allying with the Grox causes all other empires to hate your species. The final option, again not feasible for my current game, is to never ever piss off the Grox. By that I mean, don't aid allies when they are attacked by the Grox, make sure to turn off the space whatchamacallits when in Grox territory so that Grox ships aren't accidently destroyed, and maybe smooze a bit with the Grox without making an alliance.
Does anybody have any ideas I could use for my current game? I finally made it to the center of the galaxy by getting interstellar drive 5, buying a gazillion mega health and energy packs, and hopping through Grox territory. My problem is I'm bored with all the attacks on my colonies.
Gus Smedstad:
By the time you're ready for a go at the core, you're probably done with that race anyway. Certainly I didn't care what happened to my worlds when I made my trip to the Core.
The Grox hate everyone at the start of the game. I destroyed a lot of Grox ships, and I didn't find that they attacked my worlds more than anyone else's. If you really, really think it's a problem, you could try using some version of the Happy Ray on the Grox. I wouldn't bother trying to ally, but enough to make them leave off attacking you. Assuming that it isn't just normal attacks.
Certainly when I made my trip to the core, I didn't get more than the normal Grox attacks afterward.
Wiping them out is a not a reasonable alternative. They have literally thousands of worlds, and many of them are hard to reach. I suspect it's outright impossible, actually.
It does sound like you've pretty much done with your current game anyway. I wouldn't sweat leaving the Grox alone in any future games, though.
- Gus
Arnina:
Quote from: Gus Smedstad on 2008 September 21, 23:29:09
By the time you're ready for a go at the core, you're probably done with that race anyway. Certainly I didn't care what happened to my worlds when I made my trip to the Core.
I'm not done with this race yet as there are a few aspects of the game I would like try. For example, I finally have enough money to focus on other aspects of the game like changing archetypes. I just don't have the time as I'm being attacked constantly by the Grox.
Quote from: Gus Smedstad on 2008 September 21, 23:29:09
The Grox hate everyone at the start of the game. I destroyed a lot of Grox ships, and I didn't find that they attacked my worlds more than anyone else's. If you really, really think it's a problem, you could try using some version of the Happy Ray on the Grox. I wouldn't bother trying to ally, but enough to make them leave off attacking you. Assuming that it isn't just normal attacks.
Certainly when I made my trip to the core, I didn't get more than the normal Grox attacks afterward.
My worlds were never attacked by the Grox until I officially made contact. Perhaps I was just lucky up until that point. After making contact, the Grox attack at least every 30 minutes, usually less. I'm annoyed as I have to drop whatever I'm doing, travel to the colony, fight the Grox, repair the damage, etc.
I've never tried the happy ray on any species. I'll give it a go but I wonder how much it will help; my current relationship with the Grox is at negative 290.
Quote from: Gus Smedstad on 2008 September 21, 23:29:09
Wiping them out is a not a reasonable alternative. They have literally thousands of worlds, and many of them are hard to reach. I suspect it's outright impossible, actually.
I think there is a badge that can be earned for defeating the Grox. I assume there is a way; I just don't how to do it efficiently.
ETA: The badge is called "Badge Outta Heck". I found an article about defeating the Grox; it still appears to be a time consuming process however one chooses to go about it.
http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Badge_Outta_Heck
Gus Smedstad:
That's an interesting article. It doesn't say anything I didn't already know, really, except that it can be done. I took a few Grox colonies on the way the Core when I didn't see a convenient planet to drop a colony for repair and recharge, and what I experienced was in line with what he said.
I think you have to be seriously OCD to do it.
- Gus
Arnina:
Yeah, I'm not that obsessed. However, I wonder if it would be possible to have each species in my different saved games slowly work on taking the Grox out in their section of the galaxy over time. The actions of saved games have an impact on other games, correct? I dunno, the game just doesn't seem "finished" until I have peace in the galaxy.
ETA: I scoured the internets the other day to see if there was a way to lower disaster rates and found this:
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=926714&topic=45366923
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I am just copying this from another gamefaqs board myself:
I am just copy and pasting from another forum as far as i know credit goes geos to at cheathappens.
You can lower the rate of pirate raids and eco disasters by adding following lines to the end of file preferences.prop located in "User name"/Application Data/Spore/Preferences directory. Just open it with notepad.
universeSimulatorPirateRaidFrequency 100
universeSimulatorPirateRaidAllyFrequency 100
universeSimulatorPirateRaidPlunderFrequency 100
universeSimulatorHappinessDisasterFrequency 100
universeSimulatorBiosphereCollapseFrequency 100
This should lower the rates and if you input 0 instead of 100 it should disable them.
You should also be able to input those lines like cheats inside the game, but you will have to do it each time you start Spore.
Other few helpful lines you could experiment with
universeSimulatorGrobTeaseAttackFrequency (100 by default)
universeSimulatorGrobWarAttackFreqExtremelyAware (40 by default)
universeSimulatorGrobWarAttackFreqVeryAware (80 by default)
universeSimulatorGrobWarAttackFreqAware (160 by default)
universeSimulatorWarAttackFrequency (300 by default)
From what I've read (it doesn't count as a cheat, therefore no joker badge) as the values are being edited outside of the game. However, I've also read that the values are re-set each time the game is re-started. I haven't been able to get it to work, though. When I open the preferences directory in notepad, these particular options do not appear. I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong.
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