The College of #grah: Everything I Know About Spore, I Learned in Grah
Surelyfunke:
As requested, the 18 minute-long wall of text learnings about Space:
Surelyfunke: i am losing interest in the space stage
Surelyfunke: mostly because I am phailing
Surelyfunke: secondly: space is too fucking huge
Pescado: Hey, space is a tough place where wimps eat flaming plasma death.
Pescado: Space is huge! That's the BEST part of space!
Pescado: As everyone knows, space is big!
Surelyfunke: I need more money for fuel!
Pescado: How many games really impress upon you the utter bigness of space?
Pescado: Uh...
Pescado: Beardlyfunke, your homeworld gives free gasohol.
Pescado: Try visiting there for the free repair and refuel sometime.
Surelyfunke: I would take the return ticket straight back for free fuel, but my homesworld is being ravaged by raiders constantly
Pescado: Outside of a fight, I never refuel anywhere else.
Pescado: ....how constantly is "constantly"?
Surelyfunke: a LOT
Pescado: Are we playing the same game?
Surelyfunke: 3 empires are after my homeworld
Pescado: Spodists?
Surelyfunke: one of them is a spodist
Pescado: Those Spodists are an unpleasant lot.
Pescado: Klingons are also somewhat unpleasant at times.
Pescado: But seriously, what did you do to those people to piss them off so badly?
Surelyfunke: nothing
Surelyfunke: oh,
Pescado: If you have an upgraded hull and a minibomb, you can just invade them.
Surelyfunke: I refuse to give in to their extortions
Pescado: Oh, I never give them anything either.
Pescado: Millions for defense, not a penny for tribute.
Surelyfunke: I had over 1.5 milion just now
Pescado: It does help to occasionally give the more unfriendly races a small gift, in advance, though.
Surelyfunke: I think I lost most of it on bad terraforming :(
Pescado: For only 100K, you get a +50 rel boost on Hard.
Pescado: Spodists are pretty useless, though.
Pescado: Whereas the Force Philosophy Klingons have commercial value.
Pescado: And are thus easier to appease because they'll get a rel bonus for "Trading"...
Pescado: Since you will regularly visit them to buy cheap turrets.
Pescado: They sell the Planetary Uber Turrets for only 375K.
Pescado: MUCH, MUCH LESS!
Pescado: Weapons there are nearly always half-off compared to your own planets.
Surelyfunke: I need uber turrets
Pescado: When you consider that weapons can cost like a million bajillion dollars...
Pescado: Half off is a GOOD DEAL!
Pescado: Basically, never buy domestic.
Pescado: There is always an alien that will sell you nearly anything at about half the price.
Pescado: Not to mention buying from them gives you +trading, which makes them happier with you.
Pescado: Try to do some easy terraforming (don't try to make your terraforming IMPORTANT, just terraform something cheaply and quickly)..
Pescado: So that you can unlock the Megamaid tools, which are free to use..
Pescado: And then heat/coldray next.
Pescado: Once you have atmosphere and temperature tools that only use energy...
Pescado: You can terraform any planet for free.
Pescado: Try to avoid using the one-shot tools as long as you can.
Pescado: In fact, you can jump-start this in the first mission they give you.
Pescado: When you first start, they'll tell you to colonize that one planet (you don't necessarily have to colonize THAT one, since itw ill always be a lame red spice world, and thus produce nothing you can sell for profit)
Pescado: But find some planets nearby that are short on "atmosphere"...
Pescado: And then when the homeworld tells you to terraform...
Pescado: Repeatedly misuse the tools.
Pescado: Don't terraform that planet, or they'll stop giving you a new $1000 atmosphere generator.
Pescado: (As the atmosphere generator costs MUCH MORE if you have to buy it elsewhere, this is a REAL STEAL!)
Pescado: Once you have boosted your "Terra Wrangler" rank up so that you can unlock the Cloud Vacuum and Accumulator...
Pescado: Buy those, and you can raise/lower atmosphere all you want...
Pescado: And can do that to wrangle more planets until you have heatray/coldray.
Pescado: You will also need a big enough cargo bay to hold your 12-18 terraforming samples.
Pescado: It takes 18 terraforming samples to have a package capable of transforming a T0 planet to a T3 planet.
Pescado: 3 of each type of plant, 6 herbivores, 3 carnivores.
Pescado: Each tier requires 1 of each plant, 2 herbivores, and a carnivore.
Pescado: If you can spare 12 cargo bay slots, then you can bump a planet 2 tiers.
Pescado: Once you have both the atmosphere tools and the temperature tools, you can terraform any planet.
Pescado: (There are bonus tools at higher ranks of terra wrangler..
Pescado: Like hot/cold cloud vacuum and hot-accumulator/airconditioner...
Pescado: But those just adjust the atmosphere and temperature simultaneously.
Pescado: Since you can already adjust either one singly using the basic 4-arrow tools...
Pescado: You don't really NEED them.
Pescado: The one-shot versions may be useful if you need them early on, but when you have all 4 basic directional tools that are energy-for-use only...
Pescado: Well, energy is free.
Pescado: You can alwys just refuel at home.
Pescado: Tips on WOAR, on the other hand.
Pescado: You need: At least a minibomb, Some hitpoints, possibly even a shield generator.
Tigerlilley: TEXT WALL BREAK
Pescado: Just run for the planet, pause the game and zoom in as close as it will let you...
Pescado: Unpause to get to the next zoom stage, repeat, until you're on the surface.
Pescado: DIVE! DIVE! DIVE
Pescado: Then just fly over to the enemy city, and BOMB.
Pescado: Until it blows up or they surrender.
Pescado: Repair, refuel, repeat until you have disabled or destroyed all cities.
Pescado: When you then press "Capture"...
Pescado: All enemy ships start to retreat while the colony is yours.
Pescado: But we're not gonna let them just run away, oh, no.
Pescado: Chase them! KILL AS MANY AS YOU CAN BEFORE THEY ESCAPE!
Pescado: beats up Stupidlilley.
Pescado: Sometimes they drop loot when you frag them.
Pescado: then patch up the colony and repeat the process.
Pescado: Remember, fly in low and fast, like a fighter jet avoiding radar.
Pescado: If you go in fast and low, you can be over the enemy city and likely bomb it flat before the turrets even lock on...
Pescado: Allowing you to capture the city with all the turrets intact to be turned against them. :P
Pescado: Try to drop your bombs such that they open a "hole" in the city hall ring, probably by destroying an entertainment building, as those are cheapest to replace....
Pescado: And then the city should rapidly start to rack up surrender-meter.
Pescado: If you are still alive, you can repair and return without ending the battle, if you are fast.
Pescado: If you die, same story.
Pescado: Remember, Aggressive Cat is Aggressive!
rohina has signed off IRC (Quit: SUDS!).
Pescado: Woah.
Pescado: The Butt was still alive?
Tigerlilley: she was, yes
Tigerlilley: dude
Tigerlilley: you just talked for like, 20minutes straight
Tigerlilley: and I read it all
Tigerlilley: shows how much I get done at work
Tigerlilley: I don't even HAVE THE GAME
nekonoai:
If Pescado wrote game guides, I would "purchase" them. ;)
Zazazu:
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Pescado: Those Spodists are an unpleasant lot.
Understatement of the year. The ones who say things like "ALL HAIL THE MIGHTY GROX!" give me the creeps even worse.
Good terraforming tips, I've been finding that annoying and was hoping there were hidden reusables.
rohina:
I love how SUDS is immortalised in Spore advices.
Gus Smedstad:
I haven't found it necessary the second time around to abuse the terraforming tutorial mission. Well, a little. I colonzied a planet with Blue spice instead of the junky Red they suggest. But after I had that up to T1 and made some money from it, I bought a replacement atmosphere generator (at Alien discount) and finished the original mission. So I effectively "borrowed" a single atmosphere generator instead of milking it for unlimited near-free generators.
If you focus on building up a world that has a good color spice (Blue or better) to T3 with 3 cities, you'll get a ton of income early and won't have any trouble. I did pay tribute to a couple of Spodist empires for a while, but got fed up with them and eliminated one of them. I'm planning on wiping out the other when I return to that game.
It helps a lot to hire alien mercenaries. The're often cheap, as little as 50,000 Sporebucks for a raid, and they'll keep the defensive fleets completely off your back while you bomb cities or ruin the ecology with a Cloud Generator. Though it turns out this annoys your allies, they see something unethical about exterminating all life on a planet for some reason.
- Gus
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