The Battle of the Aspirations
Motoki:
Well the thing with fortune though too is they are very good about wanting to gain skills if it will get them a promotion and thus money! ;) They also will want promotions and they generally want to go to work (as opposed to pleasure ;) ). If you are fairly consistantly getting a fortune sim promoted you should have no problems getting their aspiration up as they'll get plenty between skilling up for the promotion and going to work and actually getting the promotion.
Twibil:
I loathe romance sims. Popularity sims come in at a close second. I beleive that the romance sims should be called, more appropriately, "slut sims". Romance would be fitting if they just wanted to fall in love or make as many fall in love with them as possible, but they want to woohoo with anyone on 2 legs. I would like more woo-ing and less woohoo-ing. (hehe, I am so clever) In Hot Date, weren't we able to buy gifts for our sim's love interests? I can't remember. I wish they would have incorporated that into NL. I dislike popularity sisms because it is a pain to maintain all of the friendships they want. Thank god for J.M.'s phone Hack.
Knowledge sims I think are the easiest, followed by Family. These are also my favorites, and I have a lot of them paired up in my game as well. Fortune sims are funny, I don't really have any trouble playing them, they just get on my nerves with all of their material wants. ( I think I am going to have to kill off Circe Curious, she has made Vidcund turn to a life of crime to afford all of her material wants. He lost his Mad scientist job after a bad chance card mishap.) I am really enjoying the pleasure aspiration. I didn't think I would like it, I thought it would be too much like romance, but It is actually pretty cool. I changed Ripp Grunt to a pleasure sim, he is now a vamp and I am going to get him and his alien/vamp wife the bouncing castle over at MTS2 so they don't have to bounce on their furniture.
veilchen:
Quote from: Bangelnuts on 2005 November 05, 13:40:16
Ihave found that the easiest way to deal with my Romance Sims was to set up a Bordello using the DMA setup.
Well, since I refuse to pay for downloads of any type, shape, or form, I can't use that set-up, but LizzyLove's swinger stuff works just as well ;D
At any rate, romance sims are easy to take care of if they have a significant other. It requires a little training and attention at first, but it's quite worth it in the fun department. I found the unattached ones a great asset whenever my game gets too boring, they certainly keep things hopping
Ancient Sim:
My favourites were always Knowledge Sims, probably because in the absence of Creativity Sims, they're the nearest to me in the game. They can get a bit boring I agree, but mine do tend to surprise me now and again with wants to flirt. I remember one who'd been happily married for years and was almost an elder, suddenly developing an urge to flirt with the friend his teenage daughter brought home from school and this was before Nightlife.
I agree that Romance Sims make the best parents, especially males. Family & Fortune Sim females overall are the worst parents, with the males it seems to vary. Robert Broke (Brandi's 3 child) has always been a great father, although his wife (also Family) isn't so hot. Currently, by far the Sim with the most family-oriented wants in my game is the 'soon-to-die-again' Don Lothario and has been for some time. He never has less than 3 of his 4 wants related to anything but family. His usual are to get a grandchild, relative get engaged and relative get married. His fourth will never be Romance-oriented, it varies but more often than not is a transient want related to the two grandchildren who live in the same house, such as the teen getting a scholarship or wanting to play with the toddler. Even if I deliberately send him to the bordello or out on a date, he will still come home and re-roll the family-oriented wants. His Romance Sim son is the same, all he wants most of the time are things to do with his sons. It's the Romance Sims who don't have kids who tend to want the aspiration-related stuff. Since NL I've really got into my Romance Sims and in my new custom neighbourhood I've realised that most of the ones I am making are Romance or kids destined to be Romance.
Overall I don't like Family Sims, probably because their wants are the hardest to satisfy and like one of the posters above, I operate a 1 baby per family policy, at least in my over-populated Pleasantview. Occasionally I will succumb and let Family Sims have an extra one. I also never make Family Sims with kids in CAS, otherwise they just have to have more in the game and that means more characters in the neighbourhood. They don't get kids until they roll the want for them in the game (which doesn't usually take long) if you make them married from the start. Fortune Sims are mainly too selfish for me and I don't like them very much at all, particuarly the females. Too of my most-hated Sims in the game have been Dina Caliente and Jennifer Burb and both were Fortune. I just hated the way they totally ignored their children. Dina in particular was the crappiest mother I have ever come across, Don did absolutely all the work bringing up their twins. However, if you change them to Fortune rather than them being Fortune from the start, it works better. I made Bella Fortune (what I always felt she should have been going by her character in TS1) and she was a good mother overall, when she wasn't working hard, she made the top of her career - as for grandmother, well the only word to describe her was AWESOME. Best grandparent I have ever had in the game by a mile. The first thing she did when she came back as a ghost was go check on her grandsons. She taught them everything when they were toddlers, apart from one or two things which Mortimer managed to wangle. He was a great grandfather, too.
As far as Popularity is concerned, I have far too many of these because for some reason the majority of my kids are born with very high Outgoing and there isn't much else for them to be. Even parents who are low in Outgoing are having these really outgoing kids. I read somewhere that it can happen if the mother communicates a lot during pregnancy, but that seems highly suspicious to me (almost akin to eating cookies to get twins). It even happens when I use the Randomiser function on the Lot Debugger.
I don't really understand how the aspirations and the zodiac signs match-up, either. I notice that Maxis make townies with high Neatness into Fortune Sims (Sagittarians, as I recall), which goes totally against what they say about Fortune Sims needing to be low in neatness so they're not bogged-down with trivialities when they should be out making money. I also always make my low Neatness Sims Fortune. I do wonder how they game would be if I made them all opposite to what their personalities suggest, whether it would make the game more interesting or not make any difference at all.
Pleasure I don't like much as there is no way they will achieve their LTW unless it's career-related. All those dates would bore me stupid, it's a nightmare having to keep hitting "Flirt", "Hug", "Kiss" ... over and over again, then all the hassle with trying to woo-hoo in the car which most of the time doesn't work properly. I won't be making many Pleasure Sims. As for Cheese, well I made one by mistake soon after getting Uni (forgot about the need to be in gold and above) and I was in stitches. Robert Broke's wife was cornered as she innocently walked by, but luckily she's Family and top of Culinary, so was more than happy to discuss grilled cheese sandwich recipes for an entire afternoon. She was even happy to eat them for both lunch and dinner. My Sim was in Platinum within a very short time and I changed her to Family as I'd intended in the first place - then when I realised how boring she had become, I changed her back to Grilled Cheese. I've also changed a few townies and dormies to it, but not noticed any autonomous discussing of cheese sandwiches yet. My main problem with it is that for some reason I can't stop calling it Green Cheese. I'd also love to see that aspiration come-up randomly for ALL Sims using the aspiration-changer-thingy, regardless of aspiration level (I'd like the same with the Resurrector-Thngy too, come to that). When the only way to get Grilled Cheese (or a zombie) is by design rather than unexpectedly, it spoils the majority of the fun of it, at least for me.
Well, I read through all this thread and thought "I don't have much to say on this topic, I won't be prattling on as long as some of this lot" ... ahem. Thank you and good afternoon.
baratron:
Quote from: Motoki on 2005 November 05, 02:41:03
Quote from: baratron on 2005 November 05, 02:36:39
I love Romance sims, because I'm a Romance sim in real life :D.
:o
Don't know if I even want to go there. And remind me not to go clothes shopping or near a photobooth with you. ;)
Hey, I don't do the cheating thing (it's totally against my ethics). I do the open relationship with all concerned knowing & consenting to it thing :). And I only flirt with other people in open relationships, whose other partners at least vaguely like me. I generally have an allergy to Drama.
I'm non-monogamous and, when healthy, quite extroverted. I gain energy from being with people and need a lot of people around me to feel happy. In contrast, the partner I live with is very monogamous, but also very introverted. He loses energy from having to deal with other people, and gets over-peopled just by living with me. (Pretty much every night, he goes out for a long walk or a bike ride by himself, just to be alone.) So he actually likes the fact that I have other people in my life to get time & affection from, as otherwise he'd be permanently exhausted. My other partner is non-monogamous, but also introverted. She has multiple partners but doesn't live with any of them. She comes to see us when she feels social.
Real people are much more complicated than sims :D.
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