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Gus Smedstad:
Whatever.
- Gus
Solowren:
Quote from: rufio on 2008 September 17, 19:53:46
"My knowledge of Latin Roots. Let me show you it."
Sure, if you like. That particular word happens to be a pet peeve of mine when used incorrectly. I have extremely limited knowledge of Latin roots, to be honest.
At least you know what it actually means now. :P
rufio:
Eh, the dictionary actually claims that that's a obsolete meaning, and I've always heard it as a synonym for "destroy" or "partially destroy" anyway. I'm not really sure how you'd quantify destruction of the environment, anyway.
Ellatrue:
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Actually, hunter-gathering societies actully had more free time. What caused civilization as we know it to come into existence was the division of labor that you addressed before and the fact that there was an upper-crust that didn't have to do much of anything.
There's a difference between "free time" and division of labor. People could be craftsmen, or elite warriors, because when other people were getting the food and producing it more efficiently, it allowed specialization (or even the development of an "upper crust," which could not have existed without it). Hunter gatherer societies don't have much in the way of different people developing different skills. Also, that statement makes no sense coming from your position.
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The hunter-gatherer societies were generally very egalitarian, so the complex social structures never developed.
The "complex social structures" that define a civilization? Thank you for proving my point. I win!
I tried downloading the .png files from the spore site, but the pics they give you are actually a different file: xyzmonster_lg.png (the large preview pic) instead of xyzmonster.png. The large pics don't seem to contain any data--I tried putting them in the "my creatures" folder and it didn't work. Possibly you can get the right png files by logging in, but you need a valid key to register.
rufio:
Quote from: Ellatrue on 2008 September 17, 21:17:22
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Actually, hunter-gathering societies actully had more free time. What caused civilization as we know it to come into existence was the division of labor that you addressed before and the fact that there was an upper-crust that didn't have to do much of anything.
There's a difference between "free time" and division of labor. People could be craftsmen, or elite warriors, because when other people were getting the food and producing it more efficiently, it allowed specialization (or even the development of an "upper crust," which could not have existed without it). Hunter gatherer societies don't have much in the way of different people developing different skills. Also, that statement makes no sense coming from your position.
I think we are saying the same thing, but you are saying it better. I never claimed that hunter-gatherer cultures had complex social structures. I'm sorry if it sounded that way.
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