Lest we forget: SPORE
Paperbladder:
Quote from: J. M. Pescado on 2008 September 14, 11:59:08
If you want HARD, instead of evolving, devolve. Play as a limbless, eyeless, mustachioed slug, and make it to the Civ stage (where it ceases to matter that you are a blind, limbless slug). On HARD, of course.
Damn, I forgot that you said the thing should be mustachioed. Then again, I don't know exactly where a mustache would go on this thing.
This victim of ID is named Verma. I had to put some spit and strike weaponry on him for to survive the creature stage though, I was not going to spend 2 hours using Siren Song to impress everyone. As for the not having eyes issue, it only affects the first two stages, gives you less sight range, and makes everything dark. Essentially, there is no real disadvantage to being eyeless.
Creature Stage
Tribal Stage
Civilization/Space Stage
All of the paths taken with this creature were green which gave the Shaman card as the final one. Also, the right mouth doesn't seem to work during communications. I wonder if this is because the developers didn't expect someone to finish the game using a split filter mouth.
In other news, it's pretty neat that you can find the planets in your other save games and communicate with them. However, the fact that it saves them along with the empires near them really makes you think that the universe is probably already populated with all of the creatures you will visit ala Sim Townies.
Gus Smedstad:
Quote from: rufio on 2008 September 16, 02:53:57
Human beings were hunter-gatherers for two million years, and it was originally employed by all humans, which cannot be said at all for agriculture.
Dude, that is an incredibly stupid argument. You might as well say that the transition to larger brains was a bad, thing because for hundreds of millions of years our remote ancestors had brains the size of a walnut, and that can't be said at all for brains of our current size.
For someone without your weird love affair for hunting gatherer societies, this is actually an argument for agriculture, because it took only a few thousand years for a different method to completely replace something that had been in place for millions of years.
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Have you forgotten how evolution works?
No, but you apparently have. You think that evolution is about what you think is "easier," when in fact it's about having more babies. Agricultural societies could support more people, and that's why they pushed out the hunter / gatherers.
And you know why that is? Despite your assertion, made up out of thin air to support your predetermined conclusion, it takes far, far less land to feed a person with agriculture. The "stupendous amounts of land" you complain about was only needed because there were a stupendous amount of people. Well, not really stupendous by our standards, but compared to the hunter-gatherers with whom they were competing.
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The main mystery is what made it seem like a good idea up to that point.
More food and more babies. That's a basic drive in every animal on the planet.
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And I think a small, self-contained hunter-gatherer culture would be more interesting to play than a space-age culture that goes flying around the galaxy blowing up planets. I guess it's just me.
That's the statement that made it clear to me that I was dealing with yet another weird fanatic with a fetish for hunter-gatherers. This sort of argument belongs in Retardo Land. Is that your response to every game that involves the advance of civilization?
"When I play Age of Empires, I refuse to advance beyond the Stone Age."
"Civilization would be a lot more interesting if you could just play one as one of the tribal villages."
"Master of Orion doesn't interest me because it isn't about a small, self-contained hunter-gatherer culture."
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Quote from: Paperbladder on 2008 September 16, 07:27:57
Damn, I forgot that you said the thing should be mustachioed. Then again, I don't know exactly where a mustache would go on this thing.
Well done! When I read J.M.'s quote, I dismissed it as impossible, but I forgot to think in Email Challenge terms. Limbless, eyeless, and mustachioed does not preclude weapons.
- Gus
J. M. Pescado:
Quote from: Paperbladder on 2008 September 16, 07:27:57
Damn, I forgot that you said the thing should be mustachioed. Then again, I don't know exactly where a mustache would go on this thing.
By "Musctachioed", I meant that it would have the basic herbivore mustache mouth, thus being incapable of defending itself during the cell stage.
Quote from: Paperbladder on 2008 September 16, 07:27:57
This victim of ID is named Verma. I had to put some spit and strike weaponry on him for to survive the creature stage though, I was not going to spend 2 hours using Siren Song to impress everyone.
But doing that defeats the point of the challenge! The point is that you weren't supposed to evolve, and, in fact, devolve. But you can still bite people with your mustache.
Quote from: Paperbladder on 2008 September 16, 07:27:57
In other news, it's pretty neat that you can find the planets in your other save games and communicate with them. However, the fact that it saves them along with the empires near them really makes you think that the universe is probably already populated with all of the creatures you will visit ala Sim Townies.
You can visit your other games? What happens, do you encounter the other Paperbladderian Empire you made? Does it break anything if you invade yourself?
Gus Smedstad:
Quote from: J. M. Pescado on 2008 September 16, 10:52:05
But doing that defeats the point of the challenge! The point is that you weren't supposed to evolve, and, in fact, devolve. But you can still bite people with your mustache.
OK, lay out the rules. Basic herbivore mouth only, no creature stage parts. What Cell stage parts are permitted? Only the herbivore mouth, perhaps?
- Gus
J. M. Pescado:
Quote from: Gus Smedstad on 2008 September 16, 11:08:19
OK, lay out the rules. Basic herbivore mouth only, no creature stage parts. What Cell stage parts are permitted? Only the herbivore mouth, perhaps?
Only the herbivore mouth. You even lose the starting eye and tail, thus devolving. Expect to die a lot, as you are a defenseless mustachio-mouthed slug. When reaching the creature stage, remain as a blob! You may be any color or shape of blob, but you are a blob. Limbs are permitted to give your blob some flair if you wish, but no actual HANDS or FEET or any other part. If you install an arm or leg, you must remove the foot or hand and not replace it, to keep it as a nonfunctional part.
Of course, once you reach Tribal, if you reach Tribal, you are permitted to give your blob a hat. :P
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