You could meet Pescado in a dark alley with a suitcase full of cash, or...
V:
Cafe Press seems like a fun idea, but I don't think it is very sensible for this project. We all want MATY merchandise so much that we aren't thinking of the actual goal.
The goal here is to raise $2500 as quickly and painlessly as possible. Since Paypal does not allow for anonymous accounts it is clearly not the answer. Since Cafe Press requires spending more money than necessary to reach the goal, thereby making the goal less attainable than more so, it does not sound like a good answer either.
I am sure that there must be some way to receive payments via the internet anonymously or even just under a pseudonym, but so far I haven't found it. Unless someone else has already found the definitive anonymous online payment system, I think that the best solution would be to send money orders to a P.O. Box. The tricky part here is deciding what name to put in the Pay To: section. For that matter we could leave that bit blank, but that is a whole new risk that would have to be weighed.
Once the money is gathered and digitalized it should be sendable from any location to Malaysia.
That is my strong opinion. Also I am tired of hearing about Cafe Press when Pescado has already and repeatedly shot the idea down.
eevilcat:
Sorry V, but that is a totally US-centric view of how to pay. The cost of getting a US dollar money order in any country is prohibitive ($15+ in the UK) and then you have to add the cost of international postage. Paypal may not be ideal but at least they allow for relatively easy international money transfers and MATY regulars are based all over the world.
jolrei:
Paypal is still looking like the front-runner option, just for convenience of payment. I think this is important in a fundraising exercise, such as this. Choosing a difficult method of payment, one with lots of extra steps, or one that costs extra to implement (i.e. money orders with foreign exchange charges) likely translates into loss of potential donors.
That leaves the getting-the-money-from-Paypal issue and the Malaysia-doesn't-like-Paypal issue. Could MATY be set up as an entity to collect the money. Unfortunately, the only way I can think right now to get the money to Malaysia would be to have a designated MATY person who would get the money from Paypal and transfer it by money order to Malaysia (if Malaysia really doesn't like Paypal). Can it be done without having someone be "known"?
Theo:
Quote from: Mirelly on 2008 August 10, 22:20:57
I ask again. What the fuck is wrong is opening an international bank account?
Perhaps because he'd be forced to reveal his identity? Then maybe he needs a figuredhead, perhaps bribing a local bum with MATY mugs, and then use his data. :D
mildlydisguised:
I prefer the paypal route to the money order route. Money orders penalise non-US people as we have to pay the exchange rate and increased postage.
I was happy with paypal last time although I ended up having to request my money back as Bluesoup neglected to tell me whether my payment had been stopped even after I'd asked her to check a number of times.
I agree with what Cwykes said about checking with paypal what we have to do to not get the transfer to Malaysia impounded. The thing is if the money is being sent to a Malaysian email address that is easily traced to a company registered to provide server services then I can't see where the problem is. Unless of course we are sending it to someterroristguy@malaysia.com in which case they are probably fairly justified.
The only other option that I can see is that we pay into a MATY fund set up by the malaysian server itself. Unless of course they are as dodgy as hell.
Which brings me to my last point, if we do have a designated MATYian to co-ordinate the paying, who will that be. From the tone of the thread it sounds as though it is going to be Hecubus, is this right?
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