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Stitches:
Quote from: jolrei on 2008 April 07, 18:44:06

Unfortunately, while FT seems (don't know if it's only my perception or if it's a real difference) to have decreased the proportion of paintings that achieve masterpiece grade, my experienced painter sims still seem to sell a number of masterpieces and get their wants fulfilled regularly.  Your experience may just be a sadorandom artifact, as suggested by Stitches.


Sadorandom, or the ever popular "hack conflict."

cwykes:
Quote from: talysman on 2008 April 07, 19:33:39

Aren't masterpieces restricted to still life and portrait paintings, anyways?


I agree with Jolrei. I've had normal junk paintings sell as masterpieces (pre- FT anyway).

Quote from: jolrei on 2008 April 07, 19:51:36

.....  A masterpiece can be anything at all and depends on creativity skills and painting experience, as far as I know.


The mood of the painter is critical.  I don't get masterpieces unless their mood is platinum.  I thought that stop/starting the painting also reduced its value, so a masterpiece has to be painted all at once or maybe in 2 sessions.  I'd love to know if that is true?  Again I haven't got Freetime installed yet and I wonder whether how new Lifetime mood affects the Masterpiece code.

From what I've seen in my game, I don't think novels and paintings have the same set of rules.  Does anyone know for sure?  I'd have said that creativity skill has to be 10 for a masterpiece, but not a great novel.  Is it possible to get a masterpiece from a lower skilled sim?  As to experience, I've noticed that it matters with novels - I'm not convinced it makes much/any difference to paintings.

Charamei:
Quote from: Stitches on 2008 April 07, 20:09:11

Quote from: jolrei on 2008 April 07, 18:44:06

Unfortunately, while FT seems (don't know if it's only my perception or if it's a real difference) to have decreased the proportion of paintings that achieve masterpiece grade, my experienced painter sims still seem to sell a number of masterpieces and get their wants fulfilled regularly.  Your experience may just be a sadorandom artifact, as suggested by Stitches.


Sadorandom, or the ever popular "hack conflict."


Well, in a way that's good to know. I am having another issue with the EAxis easel, as it happens - it didn't occur to me that they might be related. Oh, bugger, time to do the Dance of the Booleans again.

Sivany:
Quote from: cwykes on 2008 April 08, 13:04:32

From what I've seen in my game, I don't think novels and paintings have the same set of rules.  Does anyone know for sure?  I'd have said that creativity skill has to be 10 for a masterpiece, but not a great novel.  Is it possible to get a masterpiece from a lower skilled sim?  As to experience, I've noticed that it matters with novels - I'm not convinced it makes much/any difference to paintings.


I've never been able to get a sim to fulfil the great novel want before I installed FT. Just yesterday though one of my sims finished a novel, she had 3 creativity when she started writing and maybe 7 points when she finished and the novel fulfilled her great novel want and gave her the memory so you definitely don't need full creativity or even a good mood to fulfil that want. (She was pregnant when she was writing so definitely not in a great mood most of the time!)

I did hear before FT that a sims had to have 10 creativity to even have a chance of fulfilling the paint a masterpiece want, but like I said, I never managed it.

reggikko:
For a Masterpiece, the Sim has to have a 10 in creativity already when starting the painting. They also have to have completed a number of paintings before the masterpiece. In other words, if they have gained creativity with the piano or by some other means, it may take a while before they generate a Masterpiece. My Sims have never had to be in Platinum to fulfill the want. Also, not every painting completed after 10 creativity will be a masterpiece, so there is a bit of sadorandomness involved.

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