Scope
jolrei:
I do occasionally allow sims to mate with someone they scope, provided that I can live with the match. It's not the main driving criterion however. After all, if one just blindly followed the scope results, Emma would almost always end up with Pescado. It has been emphasized to me so very often that this clearly must be avoided.
Zazazu:
Quote from: Liz on 2008 March 18, 14:47:55
Ugh, amen to that. I've had more than one loser sim get the heart-farts for fricking Tiffany Zarubin from the garden club. Spluh!
Scope is evil. Daphne was destined for the probe, as a knowledge sim. When she became an adult, she suddenly wanted her first kiss. Fine. Harmless. I let her go to Dance! and do a scope and she picks out this nasty-looking dormie. Fine. Just using him for a smooch. Now she wants to marry him.
cwykes:
Quote from: Emma on 2008 March 18, 13:28:04
Quote from: cwykes on 2008 March 18, 13:12:42
What puzzles me is why scope doesn't always fix on the sim your sim has the most bolts for. Yesterday for example, my sim checked out SimX and got "Y is hot", but when I looked at her relationship panel, she had 0 bolts for SimY and 2 for simZ. I seem to remember a crossed out bolt coming up as "hot" as well a while back. What's going on?
It depends on the other sim. If the attraction is bad (say, he hates blonde hair but likes glasses and fatness, and your sim is fit with blonde hair and no face furniture) then it lowers the attraction score. Then, there is personailty and aspiration thrown in. Plus, sims are dumb. That's why it is good to choose for your sim rather than letting them choose for themselves.
Ummm... So scope looks at both sims (personality/aspiration/turn-on/offs) and picks out the best fit whereas bolts are one sided. Your sim can have bolts for someone who hates them. OK got it. It's the next bit... I was labouring under the illusion that bolts and scope both took account of personality and aspiration - am I wrong?
Kyna:
Quote from: cwykes on 2008 March 20, 11:21:01
Quote from: Emma on 2008 March 18, 13:28:04
Quote from: cwykes on 2008 March 18, 13:12:42
What puzzles me is why scope doesn't always fix on the sim your sim has the most bolts for. Yesterday for example, my sim checked out SimX and got "Y is hot", but when I looked at her relationship panel, she had 0 bolts for SimY and 2 for simZ. I seem to remember a crossed out bolt coming up as "hot" as well a while back. What's going on?
It depends on the other sim. If the attraction is bad (say, he hates blonde hair but likes glasses and fatness, and your sim is fit with blonde hair and no face furniture) then it lowers the attraction score. Then, there is personailty and aspiration thrown in. Plus, sims are dumb. That's why it is good to choose for your sim rather than letting them choose for themselves.
Ummm... So scope looks at both sims (personality/aspiration/turn-on/offs) and picks out the best fit whereas bolts are one sided. Your sim can have bolts for someone who hates them. OK got it. It's the next bit... I was labouring under the illusion that bolts and scope both took account of personality and aspiration - am I wrong?
I think you've got that the wrong way around. It's scope that is one-sided. Scope shows who the scoping sim thinks is hot, but carries no guarantee that the other sim will think the scoping sim is hot. That's why sim Y will scope and get a message that sim Z is hot, even if sim Z is turned off by sim Y or isn't into sim Y's gender. The bolt system is a measure the mutual attraction score between the two sims - i.e. how sim Y feels about sim Z combined with how sim Z feels about sim Y.
cwykes:
Well that shows I was right to ask for clarification! ;D I didn't get NL when it came out and got a truncated version of it when I bought OFB. I still pretty much ignore attraction unless I am dealing with frigid sims. Scope is useful for a wants re-roll though.
I was originally told that both sims had the same number of bolts for each other, but I don't see that in game when I look at a married couple for example. I thought I remembered somebody awesome telling me bolts weren't a mutual average.. Or is that just lag - I'm pretty sure Pes said that recalculating attraction was laggy.
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