Very impatient dates bug
McNum:
I think I broke something, badly.
Whenever one of my Sims asks someone on a date with the phone, the warning that I'm about to stand them up appears immediately followed by the message that I stood them up. I thought it was a hack conflict, but after a clean deletion of the Sims 2 folder in My Documents the bug persists. Annoyingly, it gives no error message, which makes it harder to hunt down unless you really know your way around the insides of the game, which I don't.
A perfect reinstall of the entire game didn't kill the bug either. By perfect I mean Base Game, patch, EP, patch, another EP, patch, and so on.
Currently I have a plain vanilla TS2/Uni/NL/OFB/Seasons with all Maxis/EA patches installed, but the problem began with a severely, and mostly Awesome, modded TS2/NL/OFB combination.
Anyone more awesome than me have an idea about what's going on? If a clean deletion of both game and save data doesn't kill it, what does? Alternatively, is there a mod around that can change the amount of time before a date feels stood up? It wouldn't be the first time a Maxis bug needs a mod solution.
Oh, might as well add that I'm running Vista Home Premium and that Sims 2 worked fine until about a week ago on that... is it overkill to invoke a System Restore Point for Sims 2?
danicast:
Need moar ram? Is possible.
Also, check the thread "vista sucks" or something, vista is a memo hog.
You can also have a headmaster stuck, heck the lot debugger thread.
You have a lot of reading to go for.
McNum:
It shouldn't be the RAM, the PC is pretty new and even Vista should be content with 2GB. I know some other games I have that actually had memory issues got better on the new PC. I can even run a truckload of NPC Sims on the lot at the same time without slowing the game down much. In fact, after installing Seasons, the game runs very smooth, probably better than the OFBp2 game I upgraded with it.
But I guess throwing the Lot Debugger at it is the next way to go. Are dates handled by the Scenario Controller? If so, it's nuke time. Maybe even Force Errors on everything, just to find out what's there.
If that doesn't work... I guess I'll have to look for a program conflict or roll back Vista a week or two to when the game worked fine. I really hate this kind of bug.
EDIT:
Nuking the Scenario Controller didn't work.
Running Sims 2 with the bare minimum of background processes didn't work.
Rolling back Vista until before the bug happened didn't either.
Whatever I broke, it's broken pretty good.
Looking through objects.package with SimPE could probably work, I just can't figure it out. Where are dates handled, anyway?
KatEnigma:
You're dreaming if you think Vista only needs 2 GB. The game, with XP needs 2 GB to run properly. Vista needs 4. But I don't think this is the cause of your problem.
When you did the clean install, did you make sure it was really uninstalled by checking C/Program Files and your registry? Did you completely move the folder out of my documents?
McNum:
I didn't check the registry, but the game files and the My Documents files were gone. I sweeped them after the uninstall had done its thing. To be sure, I deleted the entire EA GAMES folder there, just in case something from Body Shop was messing with it.
I did read the Registry entry for Sims 2 later, and it's the usual "What is the program, where does it run from, who has access to it" and such. The only odd thing was an entry specifying what EPs are installed. I guess that's for deciding what CD to ask for.
One thing about this bug that's kind of odd is that there's a post over at the S2C forum with the exact same bug apparently happening at the exact same time.
SC2 Forum
It just can't be time based, can it? That would be too random, even for Sims 2... Eh, setting back the calendar a few weeks is easy enough to test. It just sounds wrong.
I don't know, I've more or less given up on it for now. I can't find the entry for "Ask Sim on Date" or for being stood up works in SimPE. If I could find that, I'd set the stood up timer, if there is one, to something silly high and hope that would fix it. After all, annoyance is a great fuel for a mod/bug fix.
If I want to go hunting for the dating code, do I need to go for the Nightlife objects.package or the most recent one?
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