So anyone else not so happy about the new lifetime aspiration thing in FT?

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doren:
Quote from: J. M. Pescado on 2008 February 29, 07:13:57

Quote from: doren on 2008 February 28, 19:59:50

Like what does a romance or pleasure sim care about getting married, having babies, or graduating college?  This does nothing to encourage a variety of gameplay, but does the opposite instead. 
Well, you do get a useful boost for the milestones, but there is also a continuous benefit just for maintaining high aspiration, which also adds to the bar.
It still doesn't make sense that they get benefit points for something they never wanted. With regard to the new lifetime bar all sims are the same.

Quote from: doren on 2008 February 28, 19:59:50

I agree. They missed the opportunity for more individuality/variety, the more so when you start to think strategically about the benefit points.
Indivduality and variety kinda go out the window when you start thinking strategically about real life, too. Reality can be gamed just like any other game.[/quote]

Do people ever do think strategically about real life? It reminds me of a conversation I had with a lawyer I work for, who had to fill in a form about a secondment, which included the question which goals he had set forth for himself and hoped to achieve with it. I never met anybody who sits at home in the evening drawing a little chart with a three-month-plan, formulating specific goals. If I did I would probably consider this person slightly disturbed but it would definitely be a highly individual approach.

Quote from: doren on 2008 February 28, 19:59:50

Both these aspirations require that you choose a benefit "slower comfort/fun decay" to get to the other benefits, which is bad for a start since with a filled up a fun bar many of the hobby actions are stopped instantly.
The ADHD effect can be countered by using Macro Concentrate in combination with noadhd. As soon as I get to actually TRYING most of those things, I'll start developing bigger, better, anti-ADHD systems.
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It might not work as planned (and can be annoying) but I believe that it is intentional that the hobby activities are not continued for any length of time. It could be meant to encourage the player to bring the sims to a level where they go into the zone. When they max out their enthusiasm for a hobby "they are so passionate about it that they forget everything around them". In that state there is a slower motive decay, but the main feature seems to be that they continue an activity without stopping.

Jelenedra:
I could be wrong. It depends on if tinkering on the busted car is energy draining, but I noticed that my popularity/romance sim had a much smaller energy decay than my straight up fortune sim. (I had him focus more on the work bonuses).

pixiejuice:
Quote from: J. M. Pescado on 2008 February 29, 07:13:57

Well, you do get a useful boost for the milestones, but there is also a continuous benefit just for maintaining high aspiration, which also adds to the bar.


Cool, I didn't know that.  At least there's something then. 

Quote from: doren on 2008 February 29, 11:43:06

It still doesn't make sense that they get benefit points for something they never wanted.


Yes, exactly. 

ETA:  Okay, I just did a little math, and according to the info posted in the War Room, even if they never gain a single event boost, a Sim who leads a reasonably happy life would still have enough points to fill the bar before elderhood, and that's fine by me.  Not that I want them all to fill up their bars, but just as long as they can carry on doing the things they want to do and be rewarded for it.  Slightly less disappointed now ;)   

Buchignani:
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Do people ever do think strategically about real life? It reminds me of a conversation I had with a lawyer I work for, who had to fill in a form about a secondment, which included the question which goals he had set forth for himself and hoped to achieve with it. I never met anybody who sits at home in the evening drawing a little chart with a three-month-plan, formulating specific goals. If I did I would probably consider this person slightly disturbed but it would definitely be a highly individual approach.

Really? If you don't plan, set goals and figure out how to and work to achieve them, you're living your life "acted upon" (responsive) instead of "acting". My parents were famous for 5-year plans (3 months is a bit short for RL, IMO) and whenever things seem to be going off-track in my family or for my (grown) daughter, we discuss what we need for a new 5-year-plan and where we are and how we're moving (and do we still want) the last one. I'm surprised you've never met anyone else who prefers goal-oriented action to waiting until life throws something at them to respond.

Rebochan:
How often does the bar fill for just keeping up a generally high aspiration?  Does having a gold or platinum aspiration affect it differently?

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