The Armory #2 on VS?? (by WIntermuteai1)
LK:
Pilot, come on...How do you really feel?
Oddysey:
So . . . hang on a second. All this screeching about how RGiles and Numenor have copyrighted people's stuff is complete moot, because it says "RGiles" and "Numenor," and you can't copyright to handles?
Motoki:
The whole copyright shit is stupid anyway. The game belongs to EA and the custom content is no good without it. In Wintermute's case some of his stuff doesn't have any new textures, doesn't have a new meshes, doesn't have any writing done by him etc so what's to copyright? Like that hack where he basically took the Sim Modder baby tool from testingcheats and made it buyable. How do you copyright that? Maxis made the baby mesh and texture, the coded the thing, they wrote the menus etc etc. Is he copyrighting making it available in buy mode? ::)
He also put the Hotrod which only people who pre-ordered were supposed to get and Maxis didn't want it posted elsewhere up there on VS. I suppose that is copyrighted too?
Sagana:
Actually I don't believe that's true. You can certainly use a penname for a copyright announcement (otherwise, everyone would immediately have known Bachmann was the same as Stephen King) and I don't see any reason why any other alias would be different. Besides, you don't copyright *to* anything - you own the rights to your work the minute you create it. A copyright announcement, while handy paperwork in certain cases, isn't even necessary.
Despite the nitpicking, I agree the whole copyright issue is silly anyways... derivative works (and other kinds of collaboration, which all of this would be) have special regulations of their own. EA could shut all this stuff down, but they don't want to do that - user created content is way good for their business.
Edit: Yeah, that's not true... you can use "the name of the owner, an abbreviation by which the name can be recognized, or a generally accepted alternative designation of the owner." Furthermore, "Section 406 (a) begins with a statement that the use of the wrong name in the notice will not affect the validity or ownership of the copyright..."
and "To be covered by copyright a work must be original and in a concrete "medium of expression." See § 102 of the act. Under current law, works are covered whether or not a copyright notice is attached and whether or not the work is registered."
From: http://www.law.cornell.edu/topics/copyright.html
Sorry, I am... but I'm anal :)
reggikko:
Quote from: Motoki on 2005 October 23, 02:54:47
He also put the Hotrod which only people who pre-ordered were supposed to get and Maxis didn't want it posted elsewhere up there on VS. I suppose that is copyrighted too?
Yes! I saw that, with his little disclaimer that since he changed something it was no longer the same object and hence not owned by Maxis. I've never had much use for his mods because, as you said, it all seems to be derivative of the testing cheats anyway. I must admit that I did download the driveable UFO, though, because that's way cool. ::)
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