lacking elder downtownies...

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Regina:
I've noticed a few things I see as patterns when I've used the deleteallcharacters command and started from scratch which is the reason why I went to generating my own (using the NPC maker for making Downtownies and using CAS the teleporter-plus shrub for Townies--Townies can also be generated with the NPC maker, but I decided I wanted them to be more custom than that).

There are a certain number of slots for each age group of Townie/Downtownie and it seems they're rather interchangeable between the regular neighborhood and Downtown now.  Also, they're all seemingly generated in a fairly strict order.  With the original game teens, adults and children would be generated and in that order.  Now it seems teens, children, then adults are generated, so if indeed elders would be generated (I never got that far) they would come after the adult pool was filled.

One of the problems I ran into with generating them like this was that I'd end up with the Townies created based on where my sims visited most.  Say if they made 11 trips to Downtown lots, generating one Townie for each trip, there'd be 11 Downtownie teens in the neighborhood, leaving five slots available to become Townies and it was working the same way with the children.  Granted, if all of your Townie children are Downtownies it means you'll never have to see them walking by your sim's house or on a community lot (they won't show up on Downtown lots) so the only time you'll ever really know they're there is when they come home with a child on the bus (that's too often for me to see them, though, LOL).  Then when the adult Downtownies started being generated I wound up with multiples of the sets of looks instead of being randomly created--like four of the little gals in the cowboy hats, or three of the guys in the colorful vests, etc.

I, too, loved the fact there were elder Downtownies--it made things seem much more realistic to me so I decided when I started making my own I'd have a mix and that's how I went about it in the regular neighborhood and when using the NPC maker to make Downtownies I've been making elders, too.

And I'm also scratching my head over why it is in some neighborhoods I've seen adult hosts at the restaurants yet it other neighborhoods they're only generated as elders.  Odd.

MissDoh:
I use the boolprop to create my downtown townies and also notice there are a few that look about the same they just have a minor difference in face but they had the same hair color and same clothes that is annoying.

In my last custom hood, I have 1 elder Maitre D' and 2 adults but if I am not mistaken the adult have the voice of elders  ???.  The cook are all elders like they should.  That is weird!

Regina:
Maybe the hosts are like headmasters.  If you generate them they may be adults or elders, but a lot of the 'adults' have grey hair and if you look closely at their faces you'll see it's an elder face.  The odd thing is, they have the posture of an adult.

Ness:
I did play with the original default downtown for a while, in pleasantview - even at that point there were  no elders as downtownies, as NPCs yes, but that was it...

once I had a feel for the game I deleted all the characters, had the game generate new ones (using the debug command on the mail box) - still no elders.  I've actually been playing with the generation of townies for a while - I have noticed that if I generate townies in the main neighbourhood, I get the adults, then teens then children.  Generating townies in the uni neighbourhood gives me 55 young adult dormies.  I don't know if it makes any difference in the downtown neighbourhood, and it seems to make no difference whether you generate the townies first or the downtownies - the annoying thing is having to make someone know everyone to see what downtownies you have - it doesn't show the faces as it goes like the others.

The only way I've ever managed to get an elder as a townie or downtownie was to use the townie and NPC maker and specify an elder - but making them one at a time is painful!

MissDoh:
I also used the pre-made downtown in Pleasantview but I did saw elders on downtown community lots.  Did you go often in downtown?  I mostly saw them on bowling lots and restaurants.  There is not always elders on lot and depending on how many you can have on your lots sometimes there won't be any even if you move from place to place.

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