Survey on VS
laeshanin:
Motoki, that's appalling, but it would seem to be a fair (if harsh) assessment of what is going on. Very, very sad.
dizzy:
Maybe I should clear something up, here.
I am a "forum owner" at VS. If I suddenly decide to quit being a forum owner, my forums are going to be deleted unless they institute some kind of archive at some point. This is something that hasn't really been kicked around in any public forum yet, but I have a feeling it's going to get mentioned eventually.
You can't drop your forums and expect to leave a goodbye message in them. That's just not how it's handled.
The problem is that people are confused about all this and can be quite irate about it when the forums disappear. This whole thing was very sudden for everybody, especially the admins who literally knew nothing about what Witch was intending to do until yesterday.
cabelle:
Quote from: dizzy-two on 2005 October 23, 15:28:44
You can't drop your forums and expect to leave a goodbye message in them. That's just not how it's handled.
I can see what you're saying, but it's a shame that a little more understanding couldn't have been given to Witch in light of that awful, ugly fight thread and the inefficient way it was handled. After that appalling thread it shouldn't have been completely unexpected that some would want to leave as quickly as possible. And that they may feel uncomfortable discussing it with the site owners first if their (meaning the site owners) behavior is coming across as somewhat inconsistent and possibly untrustworthy.
I apologize if I'm completely off base. I can personally identify with why Witch left and how. All I know is that when I'm around people who act like they did, with a "scorched earth" mentality to win their argument, I want to get away from them as quickly as possible.
This is just my garbled $.02 for what it's worth. I know squat about making sims stuff, web sites, etc. but I do know that treating each other in a verbally abusive manner is inappropriate and more steps should have been taken to acknowledge that it should not have happened, apologies given and promises to VS members that more adult behavior will be taken in the future. It would have gone a long way in regaining trust.
Inge:
I remember when I was giving up my forums on VS, I told the site admins privately, and politely, what I intended to do and I got loads of personal abuse over it between telling them and actually shutting up shop. Rentechd mainly just started ignoring me, but Vampire was as abusive in chat as he was to me in the forums over the CEP thing recently. I had totally innocent reasons for closing the forums at the time - but by the time they'd finished calling me a liar and everything else I couldn't have done anything but leave and wished I could just pull the plug immediately but I didn't want to inconvenience the people who were already using my forums.
Motoki:
I know creators moving between sites is stressful on everyone, the creator, the site owner and the downloaders, but I feel like if everyone were willing to be mature about it things don't have to be so bad. It could be agreed upon to leave current files up but that the creator would not be posting any new ones or a link could be posted to the creator's new site.
You (and I'm speaking collectively here) don't have to like someone to show them some basic respect or at very least have enough respect to keep your personal feelings personal and not subject those looking to download files to the site wars and drama. I'm definitely not the biggest MTS2 fan, but I have to say they've generally been pretty good about leaving files up when a creator decides to move on to another place. They also tend not to block links to other sites when people ask where the creator went. Pam on the other hand has gone to the extreme of blocking moreawesomethanyou.com sitewide on VS even to the point of blocking it in private messages. There's no reason for that other than to be vindictive.
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