Survey on VS
Oddysey:
Carrigon's okay, but has always given off a certain sort of "new age" vibe that I personally dislike. It may very well be completely erroneous, but it is the impression I get from her downloads, and that flavor is one of the reasons why I've never been that interested in them.
The social dynamics of forums would be an interesting topic of study. Combine censorship based control with internet anonymity, add a healthy dose of general idiocy (graciously provided by the joyous portal to the Sims community that is the BBS) and you get something . . . interesting. Backstabbing, drama, obsession. This is why I judiciously avoid tact. Although I can piss people off, at least they know about it, and have the opportunity to avoid me. And then there's always The Code. Generally, though, I prefer for creators to have individual sites, with linkage between them. Then you can get a fair idea of who's good and who's not, depending on who is recommended by the people you already get stuff from, and you can get stuff from just the people whose stuff you like.
Zeljka:
I don't know, I read that entire ridiculous thread in complete stunned horror. I couldn't believe that it got that far, it was like a bad movie that I couldn't walk out on. It was locked when I got there, I was kinda thinking it should have been nominated for retardo land :-\
The way I see it is that if they as creators didn't even know it was there, why does it matter as very few, if any, downloaders ever will? I know everything I got from VS and who made it, as is true with 90% of what I've downloaded (barring recolours from tsr) ... but does it really matter? Does JM get a special twinkly feeling when I silently thank him because my Sim brought his brother over instead of a mailman? Inge, do you get any personal glory when I ban toddlers from the bathroom? As far as I know, there is no special reward for creators once people have downloaded their item anyway (though I personally wouldn't mind if there were). 5 years from now, will you care that people may be thanking you in their heads instead of cursing at their Sims if they're still playing the game? Will anyone really think Numenor and Captain Underpants (whatever his name is) created every Cep enabled object? And if they do, does their opinion matter?
As a completely neutral observer, I found Delphy's attempts at reason, uh, reasonable, Numenor, Quaxi and the rest of the visitors seemed to be attempting to explain and apologize and were met with insults, rants and the same stupid things being repeated over and over.
I really had no opinion on the MTS vs. VS, but I have to say that the VS people certainly conducted themselves shamefully. The way they shrieked and bashed like cranky toddlers made me lose any of the respect I may have had for many if not all participants (bashers) I hardly go there lately as it just doesn't seem worth it anymore. (plus it lags terribly despite my high speed connection)
Motoki:
I still haven't read that thread and I don't want to. I got the Cliff's Notes from someone in my PM when I asked about it and that was more than enough. Wow, some drama in the TS2 community and I'm not even involved. :p And you know what? I'm glad. I don't miss the drama, bullshit, backstabbing, egos, credit and rights bullshit and rude, demanding and demeaning behavior. I know some of you guys complain about Retardo-land and I don't go there too much myself, but hell it's downright civil compared to some of the other shit going on.
I've decided to just say no to the Sims drama and feel a hell of a lot better for it.
reggikko:
I'm going to be nosey for a moment. I've seen it mentioned several times that RGiles is no longer a part of the Sims community. What happened?
The level of arrogance and refusal to actually *read and comprehend* what was being said in that thread was astonishing. Are some of those people deliberately obtuse or what? Queen's completely personal attack on Delphy, regardless of any past history, was just base and uncalled for. Wintermute's ugly comments to Inge also left a very bad taste in my mouth. And Rentech "can't understand" Quaxi's English? WTF?
Inge:
What I have heard about RGiles was that he had to turn his attention to RL matters and that his departure was not connected to things happening in the Sims community. I don't know any details.
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