What exactly are jase, jfade and Quaxi hiding?

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dizzy:
Sorry, but I don't get it. Why do I have to crawl on my hands and knees and beg for access to *look* at a discussion for an OPEN project?

This is just stupid. If you want people to test your shit, put it out in the open where people can access it. Don't hide it and then pretend to be surprised when you get bug reports in the "release" version.  :P

mildlydisguised:
I applied for the QA version of SimPE on the 21st October but haven't heard anything back yet and I'm still not able to access the closed forum.  I figure that they've had a lot of requests for the wait to be this long.

As far as asking for people to apply to be beta testers, I imagine the modders want to avoid random stupids from BBSland screaming that experimental stuffeth has borked their game and other useless observations/complaints.  I bet you'd be surprised how many people lack the technical knowhow to click a link and apply to join a closed group, these people probably lack the intelligent input normally required of testers.

dizzy:
That's just the thing. Your perfect beta testers are the random stupids, because they find all the little quirks you'd never cause yourself.

I could see them wanting to avoid the deluge of duplicate reports or spammers, but even those things have nothing to do with whether you operate openly.

KellyQ:
I also asked for the QA version of SimPe about 3 to 4 weeks ago. Have never heard a word back.

mildlydisguised:
Yes random stupids are much more likely to do stupid things *nods* but I would worry about their ability to communicate their stupidity effectively :p

Kelly: damn that means I have at least two more weeks to wait.  Unless of course, they may be so close to the public release that they aren't accepting any more testers.

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