How can i prevent visitors ringing at the back door?

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Strangel:
Quote from: J. M. Pescado on 2007 October 29, 15:55:38

Quote from: ZephyrZodiac on 2007 October 29, 15:47:54

Also get the "Bamboozle" doors from MTS2 - they are Maxis doors which are modded so visitors and delivery personnel won't notice them.  Just be careful to only install those which are compatible with your game.
The "Bamboozle" doors strip the category flags from the door so that they are not fully recognized as doors. This can potentially have negative side effects, and this approach is not recommended.

Quote from: Gwill on 2007 October 29, 15:52:48

The frontdoorhack works for most situations, but I've found that if I build a house on a foundation with a basement backdoor there is just no way to keep dates from waltzing in through the front door, walk through the house and put their flowers at the rear entrance.  In the end I just decided to stop building like that.

Potential workarounds for this will be looked into. I already added a kludge to the hack so that it will avoid side doors to garages ages ago, will look into how to identify basement doors in code.


Will this also work with third-child-off-the-bus syndrome? A large family in one of the "attached garage" AwesomeSpec houses from the building contest has this problem. Whoever ends up third off the school bus whips out their homework, pauses for a milisecond, and goes into the garage to enter through the connecting door. Nearest I can figure, it's because either the front door & back door are blocked or because some idiot hasn't cleared the space in front of the gate fast enough.

Inge:
Quote from: notveryawesome on 2007 October 30, 00:42:33

Inge has a homework-placement mat that you put on a desk or table and assign to a specific sim, which causes the sim to always place its homework on that exact spot.


!! Are you sure?  That's not what I designed it to do.  It's just meant to have a menu to generate some work for the kid to do to get their grades up.  I had no idea it was also making them put their homework down there.

ZephyrZodiac:
Quote from: Inge on 2007 October 30, 09:02:46

Quote from: notveryawesome on 2007 October 30, 00:42:33

Inge has a homework-placement mat that you put on a desk or table and assign to a specific sim, which causes the sim to always place its homework on that exact spot.


!! Are you sure?  That's not what I designed it to do.  It's just meant to have a menu to generate some work for the kid to do to get their grades up.  I had no idea it was also making them put their homework down there.


Well, it seems to have that effect, but then it's a desk.....although I think it works with a table too.

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Will this also work with third-child-off-the-bus syndrome? A large family in one of the "attached garage" AwesomeSpec houses from the building contest has this problem. Whoever ends up third off the school bus whips out their homework, pauses for a milisecond, and goes into the garage to enter through the connecting door. Nearest I can figure, it's because either the front door & back door are blocked or because some idiot hasn't cleared the space in front of the gate fast enough.

The front door hack is for visitors, residents just choose the quickest, or the unblocked, route.

jolrei:
Quote from: Gwill on 2007 October 30, 08:09:12

Quote from: Orikes on 2007 October 30, 05:52:35

Every single time I've placed a door out of a basement, that's where the delivery folks try and go.
Yay!  You've got yourself a service entrance!


I noticed this in one lot I was playing - in the end I created a "butler" (tuxedo, top hat, etc), named him Jeeves and added him to the household so he could interact with the delivery folks.

Locks on the front and back doors tend to keep visitors out, I find.  I have given up on interior doors and use arches instead, because of routing problems (sims would go out the back door, walk all around the house and go in the front door to use the kitchen, even if they started from a position 3 squares away from the door to the kitchen - changing the "direction" of the doors did not noticeably help.)

I don't really care where delivery people go, but visitors walking halfway across a lot to get to a lower door on the garden shed (which apparently has a doorbell) only to come all the way back to the main house tends to mean that by the time they arrive, walk all that distance, and make it back to the actual house, it's time for them to say "oh gosh, look at the time".  I tend to get someone to lurk in wait for visitors now on houses with front door identification issues.

ZephyrZodiac:
I use the transporter which comes as part of the Workers Set from Valdea, which has a default setting of autogreet visitors as well as an invite setting that you can enable to invite without using the phone (unfortunately it doesn't satisfy the "Invite someone over" want, but you can't have everything).  You have to install the complete set, but the workers can be safely removed if you don't want them, leaving just the transporter (which has a number of other useful options which I make myself consider as "Emergency" measures!  The autogreet function means visitors just go through the motions of ringing the doorbell and then walk in, which saves chasing them round the lot!

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