Crash on resized lots at 7PM -- any ideas?
pbox:
Rascal,
sure it's not a hack conflict/utility?
The effect that baratron is seeing may be something that noteleportpuddles does, that other hacks *also* do .. or that is overridden by other hacks if some are present (but not in a way that you would notice in-game) .. or that only has an effect with her specific game configuration .. or something. So, I think, it would still make sense for others to test with/without hacks in general, regardless of whether or not they have this specific one.
ikbod,
thanks for your thorough (and doubtlessly, very boring) testing.
DocDoofus,
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It might not be a good example of a crash -- too many other variables are possible with this lot than with a fresh one.
I think so too. Thanks for the explanation.
Rushing off ..
baratron:
Tell you what - and this is probably going to make me the biggest heretic on the planet - I am actually starting to develop a bit of sympathy for EA here! I have honestly spent about 5 hours testing the house with every combination of Downloads imaginable, and I am certain that in my game build (Sims 2 + Uni + NL + OFB + Pets), with my graphics card, it's the noteleportpuddle.package that stops the house from crashing. With that hack alone the house is stable:
* with a CAS sim just moved in, and hit the day/night toggle.
* with a CAS sim just moved in, and save.
* with a CAS sim just moved in, play through the day, and get to 18:59.
Without that hack - the house crashes:
* with a CAS sim just moved in, and hit the day/night toggle.
* with a CAS sim just moved in, play through the day, and get to 18:59.
I couldn't get it to crash on save, even when I completely ran out of graphics memory.
But if other people, with a different game build & combination of Downloads, don't experience protection from the hack... you have to wonder what's going on!
The one thing I haven't done is tried the game with every other of my usual hacks except that one. I have to go to work once I've finished this post, but I'll try that tonight. It's possible that another of Pescado's hacks also does "something" to lot portals.
ladykat:
I have been reading all the different experiences people have had and thought I would add mine, see if it helps at all.
I made several different lots, but have tested only two. One is a 1 x 2 terrace, the other is on a 2x2 lot making a semidetached house - that is I only shrunk in on one side. There was no difference in what happened with these two designs.
I have all the EPS, including BV, but am playing with the unpatched no CD exe, in case that makes any difference.
I used, initially, new made CAS sims, and am using a custom neighbour hood for testing, and currently the only downloads are Inge's British architecture items - doors and windows etc.
The game crashes when I toggle the day/night view in either Build or Buy.
The game crashes if I try to save the lot before trying the day/night toggle.
After re-entering the lot I can save and toggle at will, and the one house I tried played past 7pm and on to 9am with no problems at all.
I can move one of these new sims from his house post crash, and put him into another new house, with no problems, just as I can place, eg, the Ramaswamis, so it seems only brand new CAS sims are involved.
What I can't do is place a new CAS sim in the house that previously crashed, the game crashes while trying to load the house. Post crash I can put him in it - I assume he's no longer new.
I added the noteleportpuddle hack.
I was able to place a new CAS sim in a new house, save, and toggle the day/night mode.
I was still unable to place a new CAS sim in a house previously occupied. Possibly entering the house in Build mode and resaving it would fix that, I haven't tried it as I only just thought of it.
I don't know if that hack will help in my normal game - I shall put it in but it isn't good for testing, takes so long to load!
kat
pbox:
Thank you, ladykatsim. Just to make sure I understand this correctly:
* you built a house using BV, and it crashed at 7PM - right? (There is a theory atm that BV houses don't crash .. which you would have disproved if this is the case -- unless there is a difference between patched and unpatched BV and all other builders were patched?)
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What I can't do is place a new CAS sim in the house that previously crashed, the game crashes while trying to load the house. Post crash I can put him in it - I assume he's no longer new.
With "post crash", you mean the *sim* involved (not the lot) had experienced a crash before -- yes?
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I added the noteleportpuddle hack.
I was able to place a new CAS sim in a new house, save, and toggle the day/night mode.
I was still unable to place a new CAS sim in a house previously occupied.
What exactly do you mean by "unable" in your last sentence: crash on load? 7PM crash? Lot never loading? Something else?
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I am actually starting to develop a bit of sympathy for EA here!
Oh, me too. Developing for Windows must be a nightmare.
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The one thing I haven't done is tried the game with every other of my usual hacks except that one. I have to go to work once I've finished this post, but I'll try that tonight.
I think that could be helpful. Thank you. I hope I'll finally get around to doing some testing myself tomorrow.
Simsample:
D'oh, this is all getting very confusing! I downloaded the noteleportpuddles hack- the version from moreawesomethanyou-bv. I took all of my other custom content/ hacks out of the game and tested just with noteleportpuddles in. My CAS sims still consistently crashed PBox's lots at 18:59, and I managed to cause crashing on CAS sim inhabited (but unsaved) lots by toggling day/ night in build mode. As before, the following were true: saving the lot at any time prevented crashing; crashing did not occur with Maxis bin families; the build mode night toggle crash was intermittent; I couldn't recreate the crash on save.
I conclude that noteleportpuddles had no effect for my game.
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